Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt
Robert Raszuk <raszuk@CISCO.COM> Wed, 12 November 2003 14:33 UTC
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Subject: Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt
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Hi Yakov, Practical cases I have in mind is the pragmatic approach to reuse existing and deployed machinery for flooding information versus designing new one from scratch. That applies to BGP, IGPs, LDP, PIM etc .... I essentially see nothing wrong with providing some one the ability to use OSPF for distributing session IDs and cookies in this example if they wish to do so for some reason. As example for provider who wish to use 2547bis over L2TPv3 for whatever reason and happens to have quite a few confederations with a common IGP it seems simpler to use IGP then a sequence of IBGP/EBGP cycles to get the information distributed. So to make myself clear I would like to see if there is an agreement in general for "protocol reuse". I also think that at some time it may turn better to just define a user configurable container (ala community field) in IGPs where users could put their data and flood without the need to go via new code / new draft each time a need to flood something arises. Cheers, R. > Yakov Rekhter wrote: > >>Sandy, >> >> >>>In a VPN enviroment, OSPF converges in sub-seconds while BGP in minutes, >>>OSPF can deliver the tunnel endpoint information much faster than BGP, >>>enabling faster traffic reachibility. >> >>I can't agree with this statement. >> >>BGP convergence intra domain - note within _single_ domain can be in >>fact almost as fast for tunnel AFI/SAFI then for OSPF. In fact with >>default timers in OSPF and with prioritizing tunnel AFI/SAFI first (as >>it should be the case) I could argue that even today with most BGP >>implementations it will converge faster then OSPF when the number of >>your P routers is decent. >> >>I think we could debate more - and yes this draft itself solves some >>practical cases with not too big overhead for IGPs - but let's at least > > > Could you please enumerate these cases. > > Yakov. >
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- Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Sandy Eng
- Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Gargi Nalawade
- Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Robert Raszuk
- Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Rahul Aggarwal
- Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Gargi Nalawade
- Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Sandy Eng
- Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Sastry, Ravi
- Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Sandy Eng
- Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Rahul Aggarwal
- Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Rahul Aggarwal
- Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Gargi Nalawade
- Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Sandy Eng
- Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Robert Raszuk
- Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Rahul Aggarwal
- Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Gargi Nalawade
- Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Gargi Nalawade
- draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Yakov Rekhter
- Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Yakov Rekhter
- Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Robert Raszuk
- Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Yakov Rekhter
- Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Robert Raszuk
- Re: draft-eng-nalawade-ospf-tunnel-cap-00.txt Yakov Rekhter