Re: [OSPF] Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-ietf-ospf-node-admin-tag-07: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

"Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> Fri, 16 October 2015 15:40 UTC

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To: Anil Kumar S N <anil.ietf@gmail.com>, "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" <aretana@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [OSPF] Alvaro Retana's Discuss on draft-ietf-ospf-node-admin-tag-07: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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On 10/16/15, 11:23 AM, "Anil Kumar S N" <anil.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi!
>
>Even if tags are ordered we are not going to achieve much; when lsa is
>received on refresh interval, all received tags must be verified against
>tags available in lsdb. Worst case the last tag in the ordered list is
>missing. So Ordering is not going to help m
>uch.

I don’t see this is a problem since the refresh interval is 1/2 the MaxAge
interval. 

>
>I do feel tags can be unordered.


We agree here. 

Thanks,
Acee 


>
>With regards 
>Anil S N
>
>Sent from my Cyanogen phone
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>On Oct 16, 2015 8:09 PM, "Alvaro Retana (aretana)" <aretana@cisco.com>
>wrote:
>>
>> On 10/16/15, 10:31 AM, "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi! 
>>
>> >This is a great discussion! It is unfortunate that it did not occur
>> >earlier on the OSPF WG list.
>>
>> Couldn't agree more! :-)
>>
>> . . . 
>> >On 10/16/15, 10:26 AM, "Rob Shakir" <rjs@rob.sh> wrote:
>> > 
>> >>. . . 
>> >>I prefer leaving "MUST be considered unordered² in the document, I
>> >>currently cannot envisage any use cases that would need to consider
>> >>ordering (in general, I think this can be dealt with by creating a
>>new 
>> >>tag). 
>> > 
>> >In thinking about this and case of nondeterministic behavior with
>>varying 
>> >implementation ordering, I think we should keep it as unordered and
>> >discourage the creation of policies that are sensitive to ordering.
>>
>> Ok..that's fine with me.
>>
>> Thanks! 
>>
>> Alvaro. 
>>
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