Re: [Pana] References

OK for me.

Lionel 

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Alper Yegin [mailto:alper.yegin@yegin.org] 
> Envoyé : lundi 31 mars 2008 13:34
> À : MORAND Lionel RD-CORE-ISS; pana@ietf.org
> Objet : RE: [Pana] References
> 
> Hi Lionel,
> 
> Sorry for the late response. I got a note from RFC Editor and 
> she said the doc is held up by this issue.
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> > I suggested that we could keep the sentence but to change 
> "recommended"
> > fro something else...
> > We may put something like:
> > 
> > "The readers are invited to read the PANA Framework document 
> > [I-D.ietf- pana-framework] to find further details on the 
> general PANA 
> > functional elements, high- level call flow, and deployment 
> > environments."
> 
> I'm afraid this'd still cause the same issue. Recommended vs. 
> invited -- does not read much different to me. IMO, that's 
> the intent in providing the first sentence below, and the 
> second sentence becomes redundant (and troubling, according 
> to the RFC Editor). 
> 
>     These components are
>     described in separate documents (see [I-D.ietf-pana-framework] and
>     [I-D.ietf-dhc-paa-option]).  The readers are recommended to read
>     the PANA Framework document [I-D.ietf-pana-framework] prior to
>     reading this protocol specification document.
> 
> I don't think we lose anything if we don't use the last sentence.
> 
> Alper
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> > Just to indicate that such info details exist... But not in 
> this document!
> > 
> > Lionel
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De : pana-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pana-bounces@ietf.org] 
> De la part 
> > > de Alper Yegin Envoyé : jeudi 13 mars 2008 15:07 À : 
> pana@ietf.org 
> > > Objet : [Pana] References
> > >
> > >
> > > We discussed these two issues during the PANA WG meeting on 
> > > Wednesday. Now running this by the ML...
> > >
> > > RFC Editor said:
> > >
> > > ----------8<------------------
> > > Our editor has started working on
> > > <draft-ietf-pana-pana-18.txt>, and points out that 
> Section 1 states:
> > >
> > >    These components are
> > >    described in separate documents (see 
> [I-D.ietf-pana-framework] and
> > >    [I-D.ietf-dhc-paa-option]).  The readers are 
> recommended to read
> > >    the PANA Framework document [I-D.ietf-pana-framework] prior to
> > >    reading this protocol specification document.
> > >
> > > We note that <draft-ietf-pana-framework> is listed as an 
> informative 
> > > reference, but it seems strange that it is recommended 
> reading that 
> > > should take place before reading the current 
> <draft-ietf-pana-pana> 
> > > document.
> > > -------------8<-----------------------------------
> > >
> > > There was an agreement at the meeting to delete the last sentence 
> > > ("The readers ... document.") to avoid confusion.
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > We also discussed if we should provide informative references to 
> > > pana specification documents (pana-pana, pana-ipsec) from 
> framework 
> > > document
> > > (pana-framework) instead of the normative ones as 
> currently done in 
> > > the document. There was no objection to this change.
> > >
> > >
> > > Unless there is objection in the next few days, we are 
> going to make 
> > > these changes.
> > >
> > >
> > > Alper
> > >
> > >
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