Re: [Pce] PCE WG LC for draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller

"Pengshuping (Peng Shuping)" <pengshuping@huawei.com> Fri, 14 August 2020 11:46 UTC

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To: Aijun Wang <wangaijun@tsinghua.org.cn>, "julien.meuric@orange.com" <julien.meuric@orange.com>, "pce@ietf.org" <pce@ietf.org>
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Hi Aijun,



Thank you for your comments! Please find the responses in line below.

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Subject: Re: [Pce] PCE WG LC for draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller


Hi,Dhruv, Julien and authors of this draft:



I reviewed this draft and had the following comments for its WG LC:

1. Generally speaking, I support the direction that stated also in the draft as "A PCE-based central controller (PCECC) can simplify the processing of a distributed control plane by blending it with elements of SDN and

   without necessarily completely replacing it."





[Shuping] Thank you for your support.





2. This draft states it focuses on LSP Path central control, but I think the procedures described in this draft is common to other CCI object(which may be defined in other documents). So would it be better to generalize the procedures? The specific part for other path type may be only the CCI objects. This can facilitate the extension of PCECC procedure in other scenario.





[Shuping] Yes, you are right. We can add some text in the introduction to make it clear that though this document focuses on the basic PCECC LSP mode for the static LSPs, the procedures defined are generic enough to be used by other PCECC extensions.





3. Section-5.5.1of this draft<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-06#section-5.5.1> describes the “Basic PCECC LSP Setup”, which is based on the LSP delegation mode. But for LSP delegate mode, the LSP must exist beforehand, which is constructed via the distributed protocol(RSVP etc.). In such scenario, is it necessary to allocate the Label via the PCE?





[Shuping] This is similar to the case for RFC 8664 where a PCC-initiated SR path is delegated to the PCE. It is not mandatory for the path (label-stack) to be "constructed" beforehand.





4. I think the most useful scenario for PCECC should be based on “PCE Initiate” message, which is used to initiate one new path from the PCE, together with the label allocation.





[Shuping] I agree.





5. Similar consideration is for the “PCC allocation label”. What the reason to let the PCC allocate such label? Why can’t PCE allocate such information for each PCC from its appointed label space?





[Shuping] It was suggested to be added because in some cases PCC may not be able to allocate a part of its label space for PCE to control and it would want to control the full label-space allocation.





6. For definition of CCI object, will it simplify the overall procedures if the CCI object for MPLS label includes both the IN and OUT label together?





[Shuping] At the ingress, we would only have out-label, and at the egress, we would only have an in-label.

In case of P2MP branch nodes, we would have one in-label and many out-labels as described in another I-D.

For these reasons, we decided to have them as separate CCI instances.





Best Regards,

Shuping

Best Regards

Aijun Wang
China Telecom








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Subject: [Pce] PCE WG LC for draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller



Hi all,



This message initiates a 3-week WG Last Call on draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-06. Please review and share your feedback, whatever it is, using the PCE mailing list.

This LC will end on Wednesday August 26, 11:59pm (any timezone).



Please note that this I-D is related to

draft-zhao-pce-pcep-extension-pce-controller-sr which is already in our WG adoption queue.



Thanks,



Dhruv & Julien





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