Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this time
Bob Briscoe <bob.briscoe@bt.com> Thu, 22 March 2012 19:35 UTC
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James, Done (Option #3), unless my co-authors would rather choose another option. You will have seen a manually posted draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-10 just appear (at the request of our AD). But we will do another rev for changes like this. Bob At 21:40 20/03/2012, James M. Polk wrote: >I know this is a nit, but shouldn't the text actually read > >Option #1 "... re-mark the DSCP to 000000." > >or even > >Option #2 "... re-mark the DSCP to 0." > >or even > >Option #3 "... re-mark the DSCP to zero (000000)." > >or even > >Option #4 "... re-mark the DSCP to zero (0)." > >instead of just > > "... re-mark the DSCP to zero." > >? > >I prefer Option #1, but am happy with Option #3 over the others. IMO >this should not remain as it is. > >James > >At 02:25 PM 3/20/2012, karagian@cs.utwente.nl wrote: >>Content-Language: nl-NL >>Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >>boundary="_000_FF1A9612A94D5C4A81ED7DE1039AB80F26C150D7EXMBX04adutwent_" >> >>Hi all, >> >> >> >>I think that the changes satisfy nicely the comments of Adrian! >> >> >> >>Best regards, >> >>Georgios >> >> >> >> >> >>---------- >>Van: pcn-bounces@ietf.org [pcn-bounces@ietf.org] namens >>philip.eardley@bt.com [philip.eardley@bt.com] >>Verzonden: dinsdag 20 maart 2012 17:46 >>Aan: sob@harvard.edu; pcn@ietf.org >>Onderwerp: Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this time >> >>Seems good to me. I like the inclusion of material previously in >>both the edge behaviour docs >> >> >> >>From: pcn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pcn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf >>Of Bradner, Scott >>Sent: 20 March 2012 16:37 >>To: pcn@ietf.org >>Subject: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this time >> >> >> >>please let the list know what you think >> >> >> >>Scott >> >> >> >>Scott O Bradner >> >>Senior Technology Consultant >> >> >> >>Begin forwarded message: >> >> >> >> >> >>Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 03:30:11 +0000 >>To: "PCN IETF list" <<mailto:pcn@ietf.org>pcn@ietf.org> >>From: Bob Briscoe <<mailto:bob.briscoe@bt.com>bob.briscoe@bt.com> >>Subject: New Version: draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09.txt >> >>PCN folks, >> >>Following IESG review (particularly Adrian Farrel's being the most >>comprehensive and useful), we've posted a new version of the PCN >>3-in-1 encoding. >> >>As well as a number of editorial changes, some technical changes >>were needed in order to satisfy Adrian's request to specify exactly >>what an implementer has to do at the ingress to allow ECN to >>co-exist with PCN, and what defaults should be set to. >> >>In particular, for a non-PCN packet (i.e. doesn't match any >>flow-state) that clashes with a PCN DSCP and is ECN-capable, the >>recommended choice of 3 is: >> >> * re-mark the DSCP to a DSCP that is not PCN-compatible; >> >> >> >> >>[...] >> >>In the >> >> absence of any operator-specific >> >>configuration for this case, by >> >> default an implementation SHOULD re-mark >> >>the DSCP to zero. >> >> >> >> >>Actually, the whole of the ingress behaviour section (5.1) has been >>re-written, incorporating material that was previously repeated in >>both edge-behaviours (agreed with IESG and with edge-behaviour >>authors, of course). Altho it largely does the same thing >>technically, it is written to cover the complete range of possible >>scenarios, and it now gives defaults and recommended choices. I >>don't think it's controversial, but shout if it is. >>< http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09#section-5.1 > >> >> >> >>Bob >> >>PS. Changes From draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-08 to -09: >> >> * Added note about fail-safe to protect other traffic in the >> event of tunnel misconfiguration. >> >> * Changed section heading to be about applicability of >> environments to the encoding, rather than the encoding to the >> environments. >> >> * Completely re-wrote PCN-ingress Node Behaviour section. >> >> * Changed PCN interior node to PCN-node where the term was >> intended to include all PCN-nodes. >> >> * Clarified status of ECN/PCN co-existence appendix. Removed >> inconsistent assertion in this appendix that an admission- >> control DSCP alone can indicate that arriving traffic is PCN- >> traffic. >> >> * A few clarifying editorial amendments and updated refs. >> >> >> >> >>From: <<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>internet-drafts@ietf.org> >>To: <<mailto:pcn-chairs@tools.ietf.org>pcn-chairs@tools.ietf.org>, >><<mailto:draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding@tools.ietf.org>draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding@tools.ietf.org>, >><<mailto:ietfdbh@comcast.net>ietfdbh@comcast.net>, >> <<mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk>adrian@olddog.co.uk>, >> <<mailto:rjsparks@nostrum.com>rjsparks@nostrum.com> >>Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:52:23 -0700 >>Subject: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09.txt >> >>New version (-09) has been submitted for >>draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09.txt. >><http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09.txt>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09.txt >> >> >> >>Diff from previous version: >><http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09>http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09 >> >> >>IETF Secretariat. >> >> >>________________________________________________________________ >>Bob Briscoe, BT Innovate & Design >> >>________________________________________________________________ >>Bob Briscoe, BT Innovate & Design >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>PCN mailing list >>PCN@ietf.org >>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcn > >_______________________________________________ >PCN mailing list >PCN@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcn ________________________________________________________________ Bob Briscoe, BT Innovate & Design
- [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this time Bradner, Scott
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Toby Moncaster
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… karagian
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… James M. Polk
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Michael Menth
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Ruediger.Geib
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Bradner, Scott
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Bradner, Scott
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Michael Menth
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Ruediger.Geib
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Toby Moncaster
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… karagian
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Michael Menth
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Bob Briscoe