Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this time

Bob Briscoe <bob.briscoe@bt.com> Thu, 22 March 2012 19:35 UTC

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James,

Done (Option #3), unless my co-authors would rather choose another option.

You will have seen a manually posted 
draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-10 just appear (at the request of our 
AD). But we will do another rev for changes like this.


Bob

At 21:40 20/03/2012, James M. Polk wrote:
>I know this is a nit, but shouldn't the text actually read
>
>Option #1  "... re-mark the DSCP to 000000."
>
>or even
>
>Option #2  "... re-mark the DSCP to 0."
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>or even
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>Option #3  "... re-mark the DSCP to zero (000000)."
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>or even
>
>Option #4  "... re-mark the DSCP to zero (0)."
>
>instead of just
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>   "... re-mark the DSCP to zero."
>
>?
>
>I prefer Option #1, but am happy with Option #3 over the others. IMO 
>this should not remain as it is.
>
>James
>
>At 02:25 PM 3/20/2012, karagian@cs.utwente.nl wrote:
>>Content-Language: nl-NL
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>>Hi all,
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>>I think that the changes satisfy nicely the comments of Adrian!
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>>Best regards,
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>>Georgios
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>>Van: pcn-bounces@ietf.org [pcn-bounces@ietf.org] namens 
>>philip.eardley@bt.com [philip.eardley@bt.com]
>>Verzonden: dinsdag 20 maart 2012 17:46
>>Aan: sob@harvard.edu; pcn@ietf.org
>>Onderwerp: Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this time
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>>Seems good to me. I like the inclusion of material previously in 
>>both the edge behaviour docs
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>>
>>
>>From: pcn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pcn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf 
>>Of Bradner, Scott
>>Sent: 20 March 2012 16:37
>>To: pcn@ietf.org
>>Subject: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this time
>>
>>
>>
>>please let the list know what you think
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>>
>>
>>Scott
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>>Scott O Bradner
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>>Senior Technology Consultant
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>>
>>Begin forwarded message:
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>>Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 03:30:11 +0000
>>To: "PCN IETF list" <<mailto:pcn@ietf.org>pcn@ietf.org>
>>From: Bob Briscoe <<mailto:bob.briscoe@bt.com>bob.briscoe@bt.com>
>>Subject: New Version: draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09.txt
>>
>>PCN folks,
>>
>>Following IESG review (particularly Adrian Farrel's being the most 
>>comprehensive and useful), we've posted a new version of the PCN 
>>3-in-1 encoding.
>>
>>As well as a number of editorial changes, some technical changes 
>>were needed in order to satisfy Adrian's request to specify exactly 
>>what an implementer has to do at the ingress to allow ECN to 
>>co-exist with PCN, and what defaults should be set to.
>>
>>In particular, for a non-PCN packet (i.e. doesn't match any 
>>flow-state) that clashes with a PCN DSCP and is ECN-capable, the 
>>recommended choice of 3 is:
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>>       *  re-mark the DSCP to a DSCP that is not PCN-compatible;
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>>[...]
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>>In the
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>>       absence of any operator-specific
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>>configuration for this case, by
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>>       default an implementation SHOULD re-mark
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>>the DSCP to zero.
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>>Actually, the whole of the ingress behaviour section (5.1) has been 
>>re-written, incorporating material that was previously repeated in 
>>both edge-behaviours (agreed with IESG and with edge-behaviour 
>>authors, of course). Altho it largely does the same thing 
>>technically, it is written to cover the complete range of possible 
>>scenarios, and it now gives defaults and recommended choices. I 
>>don't think it's controversial, but shout if it is.
>>< http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09#section-5.1 >
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>>Bob
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>>PS. Changes From draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-08 to -09:
>>
>>       *  Added note about fail-safe to protect other traffic in the
>>          event of tunnel misconfiguration.
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>>       *  Changed section heading to be about applicability of
>>          environments to the encoding, rather than the encoding to the
>>          environments.
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>>       *  Completely re-wrote PCN-ingress Node Behaviour section.
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>>       *  Changed PCN interior node to PCN-node where the term was
>>          intended to include all PCN-nodes.
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>>       *  Clarified status of ECN/PCN co-existence appendix.  Removed
>>          inconsistent assertion in this appendix that an admission-
>>          control DSCP alone can indicate that arriving traffic is PCN-
>>          traffic.
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>>       *  A few clarifying editorial amendments and updated refs.
>>
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>>From: <<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>internet-drafts@ietf.org>
>>To: <<mailto:pcn-chairs@tools.ietf.org>pcn-chairs@tools.ietf.org>,
>><<mailto:draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding@tools.ietf.org>draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding@tools.ietf.org>, 
>><<mailto:ietfdbh@comcast.net>ietfdbh@comcast.net>,
>>         <<mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk>adrian@olddog.co.uk>, 
>> <<mailto:rjsparks@nostrum.com>rjsparks@nostrum.com>
>>Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:52:23 -0700
>>Subject: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09.txt
>>
>>New version (-09) has been submitted for 
>>draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09.txt.
>><http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09.txt>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09.txt 
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>>
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>>Diff from previous version:
>><http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09>http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09 
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>>IETF Secretariat.
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