Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this time

<philip.eardley@bt.com> Wed, 21 March 2012 11:24 UTC

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To add to your nit, I think it may be helpful to add something like

"(by default 000000 indicates the best-effort forwarding behaviour)"


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From: James M. Polk [mailto:jmpolk@cisco.com] 
Sent: 20 March 2012 21:40
To: karagian@cs.utwente.nl; Eardley,PL,Philip,DUB8 R; sob@harvard.edu; pcn@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this time

I know this is a nit, but shouldn't the text actually read

Option #1  "... re-mark the DSCP to 000000."

or even

Option #2  "... re-mark the DSCP to 0."

or even

Option #3  "... re-mark the DSCP to zero (000000)."

or even

Option #4  "... re-mark the DSCP to zero (0)."

instead of just

   "... re-mark the DSCP to zero."

?

I prefer Option #1, but am happy with Option #3 over the others. IMO 
this should not remain as it is.

James

At 02:25 PM 3/20/2012, karagian@cs.utwente.nl wrote:
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>Hi all,
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>I think that the changes satisfy nicely the comments of Adrian!
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>Best regards,
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>Georgios
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>Van: pcn-bounces@ietf.org [pcn-bounces@ietf.org] namens 
>philip.eardley@bt.com [philip.eardley@bt.com]
>Verzonden: dinsdag 20 maart 2012 17:46
>Aan: sob@harvard.edu; pcn@ietf.org
>Onderwerp: Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this time
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>Seems good to me. I like the inclusion of material previously in 
>both the edge behaviour docs
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>From: pcn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pcn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf 
>Of Bradner, Scott
>Sent: 20 March 2012 16:37
>To: pcn@ietf.org
>Subject: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this time
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>please let the list know what you think
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>Scott
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>Scott O Bradner
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>Senior Technology Consultant
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>Begin forwarded message:
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>Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 03:30:11 +0000
>To: "PCN IETF list" <<mailto:pcn@ietf.org>pcn@ietf.org>
>From: Bob Briscoe <<mailto:bob.briscoe@bt.com>bob.briscoe@bt.com>
>Subject: New Version: draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09.txt
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>PCN folks,
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>Following IESG review (particularly Adrian Farrel's being the most 
>comprehensive and useful), we've posted a new version of the PCN 
>3-in-1 encoding.
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>As well as a number of editorial changes, some technical changes 
>were needed in order to satisfy Adrian's request to specify exactly 
>what an implementer has to do at the ingress to allow ECN to 
>co-exist with PCN, and what defaults should be set to.
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>In particular, for a non-PCN packet (i.e. doesn't match any 
>flow-state) that clashes with a PCN DSCP and is ECN-capable, the 
>recommended choice of 3 is:
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>       *  re-mark the DSCP to a DSCP that is not PCN-compatible;
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>[...]
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>In the
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>       absence of any operator-specific
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>configuration for this case, by
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>       default an implementation SHOULD re-mark
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>the DSCP to zero.
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>Actually, the whole of the ingress behaviour section (5.1) has been 
>re-written, incorporating material that was previously repeated in 
>both edge-behaviours (agreed with IESG and with edge-behaviour 
>authors, of course). Altho it largely does the same thing 
>technically, it is written to cover the complete range of possible 
>scenarios, and it now gives defaults and recommended choices. I 
>don't think it's controversial, but shout if it is.
>< http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09#section-5.1 >
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>Bob
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>PS. Changes From draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-08 to -09:
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>       *  Added note about fail-safe to protect other traffic in the
>          event of tunnel misconfiguration.
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>       *  Changed section heading to be about applicability of
>          environments to the encoding, rather than the encoding to the
>          environments.
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>       *  Completely re-wrote PCN-ingress Node Behaviour section.
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>       *  Changed PCN interior node to PCN-node where the term was
>          intended to include all PCN-nodes.
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>       *  Clarified status of ECN/PCN co-existence appendix.  Removed
>          inconsistent assertion in this appendix that an admission-
>          control DSCP alone can indicate that arriving traffic is PCN-
>          traffic.
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>       *  A few clarifying editorial amendments and updated refs.
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>To: <<mailto:pcn-chairs@tools.ietf.org>pcn-chairs@tools.ietf.org>,
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>Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:52:23 -0700
>Subject: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09.txt
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>New version (-09) has been submitted for 
>draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09.txt.
><http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09.txt>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09.txt 
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>Diff from previous version:
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