Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this time
<philip.eardley@bt.com> Wed, 21 March 2012 11:24 UTC
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Subject: Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this time
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To add to your nit, I think it may be helpful to add something like "(by default 000000 indicates the best-effort forwarding behaviour)" -----Original Message----- From: James M. Polk [mailto:jmpolk@cisco.com] Sent: 20 March 2012 21:40 To: karagian@cs.utwente.nl; Eardley,PL,Philip,DUB8 R; sob@harvard.edu; pcn@ietf.org Subject: Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this time I know this is a nit, but shouldn't the text actually read Option #1 "... re-mark the DSCP to 000000." or even Option #2 "... re-mark the DSCP to 0." or even Option #3 "... re-mark the DSCP to zero (000000)." or even Option #4 "... re-mark the DSCP to zero (0)." instead of just "... re-mark the DSCP to zero." ? I prefer Option #1, but am happy with Option #3 over the others. IMO this should not remain as it is. James At 02:25 PM 3/20/2012, karagian@cs.utwente.nl wrote: >Content-Language: nl-NL >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > >boundary="_000_FF1A9612A94D5C4A81ED7DE1039AB80F26C150D7EXMBX04adutwent_" > >Hi all, > > > >I think that the changes satisfy nicely the comments of Adrian! > > > >Best regards, > >Georgios > > > > > >---------- >Van: pcn-bounces@ietf.org [pcn-bounces@ietf.org] namens >philip.eardley@bt.com [philip.eardley@bt.com] >Verzonden: dinsdag 20 maart 2012 17:46 >Aan: sob@harvard.edu; pcn@ietf.org >Onderwerp: Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this time > >Seems good to me. I like the inclusion of material previously in >both the edge behaviour docs > > > >From: pcn-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pcn-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf >Of Bradner, Scott >Sent: 20 March 2012 16:37 >To: pcn@ietf.org >Subject: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this time > > > >please let the list know what you think > > > >Scott > > > >Scott O Bradner > >Senior Technology Consultant > > > >Begin forwarded message: > > > > > >Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 03:30:11 +0000 >To: "PCN IETF list" <<mailto:pcn@ietf.org>pcn@ietf.org> >From: Bob Briscoe <<mailto:bob.briscoe@bt.com>bob.briscoe@bt.com> >Subject: New Version: draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09.txt > >PCN folks, > >Following IESG review (particularly Adrian Farrel's being the most >comprehensive and useful), we've posted a new version of the PCN >3-in-1 encoding. > >As well as a number of editorial changes, some technical changes >were needed in order to satisfy Adrian's request to specify exactly >what an implementer has to do at the ingress to allow ECN to >co-exist with PCN, and what defaults should be set to. > >In particular, for a non-PCN packet (i.e. doesn't match any >flow-state) that clashes with a PCN DSCP and is ECN-capable, the >recommended choice of 3 is: > > * re-mark the DSCP to a DSCP that is not PCN-compatible; > > > > >[...] > >In the > > absence of any operator-specific > >configuration for this case, by > > default an implementation SHOULD re-mark > >the DSCP to zero. > > > > >Actually, the whole of the ingress behaviour section (5.1) has been >re-written, incorporating material that was previously repeated in >both edge-behaviours (agreed with IESG and with edge-behaviour >authors, of course). Altho it largely does the same thing >technically, it is written to cover the complete range of possible >scenarios, and it now gives defaults and recommended choices. I >don't think it's controversial, but shout if it is. >< http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09#section-5.1 > > > > >Bob > >PS. Changes From draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-08 to -09: > > * Added note about fail-safe to protect other traffic in the > event of tunnel misconfiguration. > > * Changed section heading to be about applicability of > environments to the encoding, rather than the encoding to the > environments. > > * Completely re-wrote PCN-ingress Node Behaviour section. > > * Changed PCN interior node to PCN-node where the term was > intended to include all PCN-nodes. > > * Clarified status of ECN/PCN co-existence appendix. Removed > inconsistent assertion in this appendix that an admission- > control DSCP alone can indicate that arriving traffic is PCN- > traffic. > > * A few clarifying editorial amendments and updated refs. > > > > >From: <<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>internet-drafts@ietf.org> >To: <<mailto:pcn-chairs@tools.ietf.org>pcn-chairs@tools.ietf.org>, > ><<mailto:draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding@tools.ietf.org>draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding@tools.ietf.org>, ><<mailto:ietfdbh@comcast.net>ietfdbh@comcast.net>, > <<mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk>adrian@olddog.co.uk>, > <<mailto:rjsparks@nostrum.com>rjsparks@nostrum.com> >Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 17:52:23 -0700 >Subject: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09.txt > >New version (-09) has been submitted for >draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09.txt. ><http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09.txt>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09.txt > > > >Diff from previous version: ><http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09>http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-09 > > >IETF Secretariat. > > >________________________________________________________________ >Bob Briscoe, BT Innovate & Design > >________________________________________________________________ >Bob Briscoe, BT Innovate & Design > > >_______________________________________________ >PCN mailing list >PCN@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcn
- [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this time Bradner, Scott
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Toby Moncaster
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… karagian
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… James M. Polk
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Michael Menth
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Ruediger.Geib
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Bradner, Scott
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Bradner, Scott
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Michael Menth
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Ruediger.Geib
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… philip.eardley
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Toby Moncaster
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… karagian
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Michael Menth
- Re: [PCN] lets try again - a chair asking this ti… Bob Briscoe