Re: [PCN] PCN edge behaviour experiment
Michael Menth <menth@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> Tue, 20 March 2012 21:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: [PCN] PCN edge behaviour experiment
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I don't suggest artifical traffic to cause admitted traffic exceeding the PCN threshold but real traffic. A planned experiment does not imply artifical traffic. Am 20.03.2012 22:11, schrieb Tom Taylor: > Good points. That means the experiment doesn't have to run very long > to meet the first two objectives. I do have one concern that if you > introduce artificial traffic then maybe you don't get the same outcome > that real traffic gives you. I figure it's inevitable that the > benefits of PCN with real traffic in a real network will be less than > our simulations show, if only because real networks tend to be > over-provided with capacity. > > On 20/03/2012 4:52 PM, Michael Menth wrote: >> Hi Tom, >> >> >> Am 20.03.2012 21:18, schrieb Tom Taylor: >>> I am making what I trust will be the final revisions to the edge >>> behaviour documents in response to IESG comments. Amongst other >>> things, this is the text I propose to add in the introduction to >>> justify the Experimental status of the documents. The text will be the >>> same for CL and for SM, following on Ruediger's observation that both >>> behaviours are valid in different contexts. Comments are welcomed. >>> >>> --- >>> >>> This document describes an experimental edge node behaviour to >>> implement PCN in a network. The experiment may be run in a network in >>> which a substantial proportion of the traffic carried is in the form >>> of inelastic flows and where admission control of micro-flows is >>> applied at the edge. For the effects of PCN to be observable, at least >>> some links of the network should be running near or at capacity. >> Better: "the aggregate rate of admitted flows on some links should come >> close to the bandwidths of these links." >> >>> The amount of effort required to prepare the network for the >>> experiment (see Section 5.1) may constrain the size of network to >>> which it is applied. The purposes of the experiment are: >>> >>> - to validate the specification of the CL [SM] edge behaviour; >>> >>> - to evaluate the effectiveness of the CL [SM] edge behaviour in >>> preserving quality of service for admitted flows; and >>> >>> - to evaluate PCN's potential for reducing the amount of capital and >>> operational costs in comparison to alternative methods of assuring >>> quality of service. >>> >>> For the first two objectives, the experiment should run long enough >>> for the network to experience sharp peaks of traffic in at least some >>> directions. >> These peaks could be intentionally caused for the sake of the experiment >> so that the effect of admission control is visible. >> >>> It would also be desirable to observe PCN performance in the face of >>> failures in the network. A period in the order of a month or two in >>> busy season may be enough. The third objective is more difficult, and >>> could require observation over a period long enough for traffic demand >>> to grow to the point where additional capacity must be provisioned at >>> some points in the network. >> Also failures could be intentionally caused for the sake of the >> experiment. Capacity shortage on backup paths could also be planned for >> so that the effect of flow termination is visible. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Michael >> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PCN mailing list >>> PCN@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pcn >> -- Prof. Dr. habil. Michael Menth University of Tuebingen Faculty of Science Department of Computer Science Chair of Communication Networks Sand 13, 72076 Tuebingen, Germany phone: (+49)-7071/29-70505 fax: (+49)-7071/29-5220 mailto:menth@uni-tuebingen.de http://kn.inf.uni-tuebingen.de
- [PCN] PCN edge behaviour experiment Tom Taylor
- Re: [PCN] PCN edge behaviour experiment Michael Menth
- Re: [PCN] PCN edge behaviour experiment Tom Taylor
- Re: [PCN] PCN edge behaviour experiment Michael Menth
- Re: [PCN] PCN edge behaviour experiment Ruediger.Geib
- Re: [PCN] PCN edge behaviour experiment Michael Menth
- Re: [PCN] PCN edge behaviour experiment Tom Taylor
- Re: [PCN] PCN edge behaviour experiment Bob Briscoe
- Re: [PCN] PCN edge behaviour experiment Bob Briscoe