Re: [Pearg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-06.txt

I merged this change. Really solid rework, Shivan.

Chairs, wondering at this point with such a stable version, if we could
enter the draft into research group last call?

Thanks,
-Mallory

On Wednesday, June 1, 2022, Shivan Kaul Sahib <shivankaulsahib@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Vittorio,
>
> On Thu, 26 May 2022 at 03:36, Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola=40open-
> xchange.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I reviewed the diff and I find the section on "network disconnection" a
>> bit ambiguous, because it is unclear if you are discussing "network
>> shutdown" - i.e., the network does not work, all end-user clients are
>> disconnected from the network and no one can communicate anything - or
>> "Internet fragmentation" - i.e. the network continues to work, end-users
>> continue to communicate, but the interconnection of the regional Internet
>> with the rest of the world is cut or put under heavy control, so end-users
>> can only access local/national services.
>>
>>
> I interpreted it to be the latter i.e. fragmentation. I've suggested some
> text to maybe clarify it a bit more: https://github.com/IRTF-PEARG/
> rfc-censorship-tech/pull/86
>
>
>
>> Both the examples and the comments in the section seem to refer
>> alternatively to one of the two, but the two cases are different; for
>> example, in the case of fragmentation it is incorrect to say that "the
>> censor pays for absolute control over digital information by losing all the
>> benefits the Internet brings", as the Internet continues to work - it's
>> just the global platforms that become unavailable, and while this may be
>> hard if you were basing all your digital services on Google etc, if you as
>> a country were a bit more strategic (see Russia) this will actually more or
>> less work even as a mid-term solution.
>>
>>
>> > Il 25/05/2022 22:42 internet-drafts@ietf.org ha scritto:
>> >
>> >
>> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>> directories.
>> > This draft is a work item of the Privacy Enhancements and Assessments
>> Research Group RG of the IRTF.
>> >
>> >         Title           : A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniques
>> >         Authors         : Joseph Lorenzo Hall
>> >                           Michael D. Aaron
>> >                           Amelia Andersdotter
>> >                           Ben Jones
>> >                           Nick Feamster
>> >                           Mallory Knodel
>> >       Filename        : draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-06.txt
>> >       Pages           : 45
>> >       Date            : 2022-05-25
>> >
>> > Abstract:
>> >    This document describes technical mechanisms employed in network
>> >    censorship that regimes around the world use for blocking or
>> >    impairing Internet traffic.  It aims to make designers, implementers,
>> >    and users of Internet protocols aware of the properties exploited and
>> >    mechanisms used for censoring end-user access to information.  This
>> >    document makes no suggestions on individual protocol considerations,
>> >    and is purely informational, intended as a reference.
>> >
>> >
>> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-pearg-censorship/
>> >
>> > There is also an htmlized version available at:
>> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-06
>> >
>> > A diff from the previous version is available at:
>> > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-06
>> >
>> >
>> > Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org:
>> :internet-drafts
>> >
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