Re: [Pearg] I-D Action: draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-06.txt

Hi Vittorio,

On Thu, 26 May 2022 at 03:36, Vittorio Bertola <vittorio.bertola=
40open-xchange.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I reviewed the diff and I find the section on "network disconnection" a
> bit ambiguous, because it is unclear if you are discussing "network
> shutdown" - i.e., the network does not work, all end-user clients are
> disconnected from the network and no one can communicate anything - or
> "Internet fragmentation" - i.e. the network continues to work, end-users
> continue to communicate, but the interconnection of the regional Internet
> with the rest of the world is cut or put under heavy control, so end-users
> can only access local/national services.
>
>
I interpreted it to be the latter i.e. fragmentation. I've suggested some
text to maybe clarify it a bit more:
https://github.com/IRTF-PEARG/rfc-censorship-tech/pull/86

> Both the examples and the comments in the section seem to refer
> alternatively to one of the two, but the two cases are different; for
> example, in the case of fragmentation it is incorrect to say that "the
> censor pays for absolute control over digital information by losing all the
> benefits the Internet brings", as the Internet continues to work - it's
> just the global platforms that become unavailable, and while this may be
> hard if you were basing all your digital services on Google etc, if you as
> a country were a bit more strategic (see Russia) this will actually more or
> less work even as a mid-term solution.
>
>
> > Il 25/05/2022 22:42 internet-drafts@ietf.org ha scritto:
> >
> >
> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> > This draft is a work item of the Privacy Enhancements and Assessments
> Research Group RG of the IRTF.
> >
> >         Title           : A Survey of Worldwide Censorship Techniques
> >         Authors         : Joseph Lorenzo Hall
> >                           Michael D. Aaron
> >                           Amelia Andersdotter
> >                           Ben Jones
> >                           Nick Feamster
> >                           Mallory Knodel
> >       Filename        : draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-06.txt
> >       Pages           : 45
> >       Date            : 2022-05-25
> >
> > Abstract:
> >    This document describes technical mechanisms employed in network
> >    censorship that regimes around the world use for blocking or
> >    impairing Internet traffic.  It aims to make designers, implementers,
> >    and users of Internet protocols aware of the properties exploited and
> >    mechanisms used for censoring end-user access to information.  This
> >    document makes no suggestions on individual protocol considerations,
> >    and is purely informational, intended as a reference.
> >
> >
> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-pearg-censorship/
> >
> > There is also an htmlized version available at:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-06
> >
> > A diff from the previous version is available at:
> > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-irtf-pearg-censorship-06
> >
> >
> > Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at rsync.ietf.org:
> :internet-drafts
> >
> >
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