Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might use the IoT to spy on you
Robin Wilton <wilton@isoc.org> Thu, 11 February 2016 17:13 UTC
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From: Robin Wilton <wilton@isoc.org>
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Yup - so much for the dire warnings about the Internet "going dark"... they're about to see the deployment of exponential numbers of devices where security is (if I'm optimistic) a "bolt-on", ad which will generate a constant stream of cloud-bound data, straight from your fridge/lightbulb/pants. I thought DKG put it very pithily in Yokohama: "it's not that the Internet is going dark, it's that the agencies have been staring at the sun for the last decade or so" (not verbatim quote, apologies to DKG for any inaccuracy!) Yrs., Robin Robin Wilton Technical Outreach Director - Identity and Privacy On 11 Feb 2016, at 15:09, "Joseph Lorenzo Hall" <joe@cdt.org> wrote: > Then-CIA Director Petraeus said essentially the same thing four years ago, FYI: > > http://www.wired.com/2012/03/petraeus-tv-remote/ > > On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com> wrote: >> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/09/internet-of-things-smart-home-devices-government-surveillance-james-clapper?CMP=share_btn_fb >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> perpass mailing list >> perpass@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass >> > > > > -- > Joseph Lorenzo Hall > Chief Technologist, Center for Democracy & Technology [https://www.cdt.org] > e: joe@cdt.org, p: 202.407.8825, pgp: https://josephhall.org/gpg-key > Fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3 4B10 1607 5F86 6987 40A9 A871 > > CDT's annual dinner, Tech Prom, is April 6, 2016! https://cdt.org/annual-dinner > > _______________________________________________ > perpass mailing list > perpass@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/perpass
- Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might… Dave Crocker
- [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might use… Russ Housley
- Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might… dan
- [perpass] Minimal benefit from perimeter protecti… Dave Crocker
- Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might… Robin Wilton
- Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might… Christian Huitema
- Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might… Ted Lemon
- Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might… dan
- Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might… Paul Ferguson
- Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might… Robin Wilton
- Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might… Brian Trammell
- Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might… Michael Richardson
- Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might… Dave Crocker
- Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might… Dan York
- Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might… Dave Crocker
- Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might… Olle E. Johansson
- Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might… Robin Wilton
- Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might… Dave Crocker
- Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might… Olle E. Johansson
- Re: [perpass] US intelligence chief says we might… dan