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Re: [perpass] Yet Another Reason why ALL CLEARTEXT MUST BE ELIMINATED!

Martin Millnert <martin@millnert.se> Wed, 11 December 2013 20:21 UTC

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Subject: Re: [perpass] Yet Another Reason why ALL CLEARTEXT MUST BE ELIMINATED!
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On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 11:44 -0800, Nicholas Weaver wrote:
> On Dec 11, 2013, at 10:16 AM, wilton@isoc.org wrote:
> 
> > And this time *with* the link... I hate it when I do that.
> > http://webpolicy.org/2013/12/09/metaphone-the-nsa-three-hop/
> > Robin
> 
> Everyone on this group should be considered within the "3 hop" rule.
> 
> Edward Snowden <-> Various Reporters And Others I've Identified <-> Me <-> You all.
> 
> Enjoy.

Two hop is actually sufficient, since Jake's participating here. :-)

Regards,
Martin

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