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Re: [perpass] Yet Another Reason why ALL CLEARTEXT MUST BE ELIMINATED!

Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com> Fri, 13 December 2013 03:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [perpass] Yet Another Reason why ALL CLEARTEXT MUST BE ELIMINATED!
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On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Martin Millnert <martin@millnert.se> wrote:

> On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 11:44 -0800, Nicholas Weaver wrote:
> > On Dec 11, 2013, at 10:16 AM, wilton@isoc.org wrote:
> >
> > > And this time *with* the link... I hate it when I do that.
> > > http://webpolicy.org/2013/12/09/metaphone-the-nsa-three-hop/
> > > Robin
> >
> > Everyone on this group should be considered within the "3 hop" rule.
> >
> > Edward Snowden <-> Various Reporters And Others I've Identified <-> Me
> <-> You all.
> >
> > Enjoy.
>
> Two hop is actually sufficient, since Jake's participating here. :-)
>
> Regards,
> Martin
>

I know Glenn Greenwald, I think he is considered a prime target, not a
secondary.

So the whole IETF is two hop.

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