Re: (NAT) Re: Interactions between IPSEC and NAT

[Pyda Srisuresh <[e-mail]>]

Jim, 

    Thanks for your understanding. I am not trying to be political,
just putting things in perspective. As for solutions that do not 
include NAT, I am not averse to them. I will certainly try to offer
whatever I can towards providing myriad of solutions to customers.
Thanks again.

cheers,
suresh
> 
> Suresh,
> 
> I don't see belaboring these points further.  I will agree that we
> disagree on the values and capabilities of NAT and thats fine, rather 
> than provide anymore counter arguments, because I believe the point of 
> this mail list and group is to develop the specifics that relate to that 
> which can be standardized in the IETF to support NAT technology.  
> 
> So lets start having that discussion because I am an engineer who is
> interested and will build a NAT implementation as one solution to leave
> IPv4 and move on to IPv6 and avoid private addresses as ONE customer
> "choice" to accomplish this task.
> 
> As far as other solutions that don't use NAT I take your mail this is
> not the place to work on that, though you put that politically quite
> well as other comments you have made now and in the past, which is good
> as your the chair and need to be nice to us.  Thank You.
> 
> Soooo... I will connect offline with a few folks and suggest we have a
> BOF potentially of alternative solutions to NAT.  My work on NNAT is for
> v4-v6 transition and that clearly belongs in the NGTRANS WG I agree.  But 
> my engineering work on this has made me realize as an implementor I can
> implement alternatives to NAT and I will see if others in our
> community are interested in, in another forum.  Including for IPv4
> regardless of IPv6.  So now I am also interested in solutions that can
> avoid NAT in IPv4 too.
> 
> Others can send me mail PRIVATELY if you interested in such a BOF for
> the L.A. meeting.
> 
> thanks for working to clear this up,
> /jim
> 
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