Re: [pntaw] New version of draft-hutton-rtcweb-nat-firewall-considerations

Oleg Moskalenko <mom040267@gmail.com> Mon, 23 September 2013 07:01 UTC

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On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:47 PM, Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com>wrote:

> My comfort level with telling people who run networks
> that their network access management policies and technologies
> are behind the times and because we know better then they
> do about these things it's fine if we punch holes in their
> firewalls without asking is not very high, to be honest.
>

This is all not about comfort.


>
> At any rate I do think it's worth understanding (yes, I
> used the "u" word) that you're using technologies that were
> intended to address NAT problems for firewall traversal
> and that there are some security issues that need closer
> scrutiny, particularly the specifics of how you protect
> against abuse by attackers.
>

I do not think that anybody would be arguing with this rather obvious
observation.