RE: [Policy] Re: draft-reyes-policy-core-ext-schema-03.txt
John Strassner <John.Strassner@intelliden.com> Mon, 15 September 2003 13:16 UTC
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From: John Strassner <John.Strassner@intelliden.com>
To: "Larry S. Bartz" <lbartz@parnelli.indy.cr.irs.gov>, "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com>
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Subject: RE: [Policy] Re: draft-reyes-policy-core-ext-schema-03.txt
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 07:14:30 -0600
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I've been away for awhile, but am commenting because Bert asked for comments from the original authors. I agree with Larry and Ryan. There is no technical justification for deprecating these classes. In rereading the draft, I would go further and state that there some of the restructuring may not be a good idea; however, I want to reread this one last time and then I will provide detailed comments. Finally, Kurt is absolutely correct - deprecation is inappropriate in an LDAP schema standards document. regards, John John C. Strassner Chief Strategy Officer Intelliden Inc. 90 South Cascade Avenue Colorado Springs, CO 80906 USA phone: +1.791.785.0648 fax: +1.719.785.0644 email: john.strassner@intelliden.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry S. Bartz [mailto:lbartz@parnelli.indy.cr.irs.gov] > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 3:24 PM > To: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) > Cc: policy@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Policy] Re: draft-reyes-policy-core-ext-schema-03.txt > > Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote, On 08/29/03 10:14: > > What an underwhelming interest in this document. > > > > When I start reading it, I see in the abstract: > > This document defines a number of changes and extensions to > the > > Policy Core LDAP Schema [PCLS] based on the specifications of > the > > Policy Core Information Model Extensions [PCIM_EXT]. The > changes > > include additional object classes previously not covered, > deprecation > > of some object classes and changes to the object class > hierarchy > > defined in [PCLS]. > > > > And so I immediately wonder... is it really OK that this document > > deprecates some object classes ?? > > > > Possibly so... but I'd like to hear some of the PCIM, PCIM-EXT > and > > PCLS authors/ediotrs to explicitly say so. PLEASE! > > > > Thanks, > > Bert > > > I argued several months ago that it is actually unnecessary to > deprecate any of PCLS's information components. There are no > naming clashes with PCLS components. The proposed deprecation > only insures that PCLS and this schema will not be able to > co-exist in the same Directory implementations. This is counter > to the spirit of "extension". It casts a negative light on an > elegant and highly serviceable information model and schema > definition. > > Further, another commenter (I believe it was Kurt Zielenga) > asserted > that the specification of deprecation is inappropriate in a schema > standards document. Rather, deprecation is to be asserted by > Directory service implementers in the course of managing instances > of the Directory service. > > -- > -- > #:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > ::::| > # Larry Bartz > # > # voice (317) 226-7060 > # FAX (317) 226-6378 > #:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > ::::| > > > _______________________________________________ > Policy mailing list > Policy@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/policy
- [Policy] draft-reyes-policy-core-ext-schema-03.txt Pana, Mircea
- [Policy] Re: draft-reyes-policy-core-ext-schema-0… Joel M. Halpern
- RE: [Policy] Re: draft-reyes-policy-core-ext-sche… Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- Re: [Policy] Re: draft-reyes-policy-core-ext-sche… Larry S. Bartz
- Re: [Policy] Re: draft-reyes-policy-core-ext-sche… Ryan Moats
- RE: [Policy] Re: draft-reyes-policy-core-ext-sche… John Strassner
- RE: [Policy] Re: draft-reyes-policy-core-ext-sche… Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
- [Policy] RE: draft-reyes-policy-core-ext-schema-0… Wijnen, Bert (Bert)