[procon] Re: I-D Action: draft-eggert-procon-chair-delegate-02.txt

[Joel Halpern <[e-mail]>]

While I philosophically agree, I have two concerns.

One concern is probably unfixable, and we just live with it.  In 
principle, the person appointed by the nomcom could delegate all of 
their day-to-day responsibility to other ADs.  Without having told the 
nomcom that they intended to do that.  I consider that undesirable.  The 
fixable aspect of this is probably just to note that the nomcom can ask 
IETF chair candidates what parts of the job they intend to delegate so 
the nomcom knows which parts of the job they are choosing a person to 
do, and which parts of the job they are choosing a person to choose a 
person for.  (Those are different skills.)

The other piece is that I am concerned about the delegation of the IAB 
participation.  The delegation of the LLC participation is called out in 
the LLC documents.   I don't think it is up to the IESG without explicit 
confirmation from the IAB to change the IAB participation.  I think that 
delegation someone needs to be signed off on by the IAB.    From where I 
sit, that delegation could use some better explanation of what 
properties the IETF Chair should look for in a person when they delegate 
that role.  My own read is that the IETF Chair inclusion is not merely 
to ensure close communication (the laiison in each direction already can 
do that) but to provide a particularly broad view of IETF operations and 
activities that may otherwise be lacking.  However, that is a guess 
since I don't think it is spelled out in the existing documents and is 
not not spelled out here.

Yours,

Joel

On 6/29/2026 11:55 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> I support clarifying the IETF Chair's power to delegate. Personally I'd
> enable it by a much more general provision. Something like:
>
> The Chair may delegate any specific part of their role to another AD,
> unless specifically disallowed by a BCP. Delegations must be for a
> specific period of time and must be announced. However, ultimate
> responsibility remains with the Chair.
>
> That said, I agree with the draft, because it really amounts to exactly
> that. It just seems that there's a lot of detail that most readers will
> not care about. Maybe the main text could be rather short, with the 
> details
> in an Appendix?
>
> Regards/Ngā mihi
>    Brian Carpenter
>
> On 29-Jun-26 20:52, [e-mail] wrote:
>> Internet-Draft draft-eggert-procon-chair-delegate-02.txt is now 
>> available.
>>
>>     Title:   The IETF Chair May Delegate
>>     Author:  Lars Eggert
>>     Name:    draft-eggert-procon-chair-delegate-02.txt
>>     Pages:   11
>>     Dates:   2026-06-29
>>
>> Abstract:
>>
>>     This document affirms that the IETF Chair may delegate some of their
>>     responsibilities to other Area Directors, and updates several
>>     existing RFCs to enable that.
>>
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-eggert-procon-chair-delegate/
>>
>> There is also an HTML version available at:
>> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-eggert-procon-chair-delegate-02.html 
>>
>>
>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-eggert-procon-chair-delegate-02 
>>
>>
>> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
>> rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
>>
>>
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