Re: [PWE3] S-PE in stitching architecture document
Matthew.Bocci@alcatel.co.uk Thu, 28 July 2005 16:50 UTC
Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=megatron.ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DyBaL-0006XJ-Mn; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:50:17 -0400
Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by megatron.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.32) id 1DyBaK-0006X8-30; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:50:16 -0400
Received: from ietf-mx.ietf.org (ietf-mx [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id MAA12034; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 12:50:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matthew.Bocci@alcatel.co.uk
Received: from smail.alcatel.fr ([62.23.212.165]) by ietf-mx.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DyC5m-0003FA-Pg; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 13:22:49 -0400
Received: from gbmail02.netfr.alcatel.fr (gbmail02.netfr.alcatel.fr [155.132.251.26]) by smail.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/NETFR) with ESMTP id j6SGo51i029142; Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:50:05 +0200
In-Reply-To: <42E8F118.70107@pi.se>
Subject: Re: [PWE3] S-PE in stitching architecture document
To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.se>
X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 6.5 September 26, 2003
Message-ID: <OF7BBA9392.FD57198E-ON8025704C.005B79DE-8025704C.005C76CE@netfr.alcatel.fr>
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 17:49:57 +0100
X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on GBMAIL02/GB/ALCATEL(Release 5.0.11 |July 24, 2002) at 07/28/2005 17:50:05
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
X-Alcanet-MTA-scanned-and-authorized: yes
X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/)
X-Scan-Signature: 73734d43604d52d23b3eba644a169745
Cc: pwe3-bounces@ietf.org, George Swallow <swallow@cisco.com>, pwe3@ietf.org, stbryant@cisco.com
X-BeenThere: pwe3@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
List-Id: Pseudo Wires Edge to Edge <pwe3.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pwe3>, <mailto:pwe3-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Post: <mailto:pwe3@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:pwe3-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pwe3>, <mailto:pwe3-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
Sender: pwe3-bounces@ietf.org
Errors-To: pwe3-bounces@ietf.org
Loa and all, Thanks for your comments. If U-PE clashes with another definition elsewhere, then we will certainly have to revisit this name. I agree that we have to be careful where we do PW switching. An objective is to constrain the scaling and complexity issues, and the points where policy may be applied to PWs, to specific elements in the network. Hence the description of the network architecture in terms of "PWE3 domains." Regards, Matthew Loa Andersson <loa@pi.se> To: George Swallow <swallow@cisco.com> Sent by: cc: stbryant@cisco.com, pwe3@ietf.org, Matthew BOCCI/GB/ALCATEL@ALCATEL pwe3-bounces@iet Subject: Re: [PWE3] S-PE in stitching architecture document f.org 28/07/2005 15:52 Matthew, Stewart, while we are at it picking on PE naming, please note that U-PE is "taken", in the draft-ietf-l2vpn-l2-framework-05.txt and also documented in rfc4026 it stands for User-facing PE. The concept is used for a situation where the PE functionality are distribute over more than one router, a user facing PE and a network facing PE. I think that we could avoid future confusion by changing name. btw, I think we should very carefully discuss where we need and allow pw stiching. /Loa George Swallow wrote: > Mathew, Stewart - > > I think both the name and definition of the S-PE should change. While > canonical example and most pressing application for stitching is at a > provider's edge, I don't see any reason to constrain the stitching point > to a PE. One could imagine applications that might find stitching > useful at other points. > > ...George > > ======================================================================== > George Swallow Cisco Systems (978) 936-1398 > 1414 Massachusetts Avenue > Boxborough, MA 01719 > > > > _______________________________________________ > pwe3 mailing list > pwe3@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pwe3 > -- Loa Andersson Principal Networking Architect Acreo AB phone: +46 8 632 77 14 Isafjordsgatan 22 mobile: +46 739 81 21 64 Kista, Sweden email: loa.andersson@acreo.se loa@pi.se _______________________________________________ pwe3 mailing list pwe3@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pwe3 _______________________________________________ pwe3 mailing list pwe3@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pwe3
- [PWE3] S-PE in stitching architecture document George Swallow
- RE: [PWE3] S-PE in stitching architecture document richard.spencer
- RE: [PWE3] S-PE in stitching architecture document Busschbach, Peter B (Peter)
- Re: [PWE3] S-PE in stitching architecture document Loa Andersson
- Re: [PWE3] S-PE in stitching architecture document Matthew.Bocci
- Re: [PWE3] S-PE in stitching architecture document Luca Martini
- RE: [PWE3] S-PE in stitching architecture document Yaakov Stein
- Re: [PWE3] S-PE in stitching architecture document Matthew.Bocci
- RE: [PWE3] S-PE in stitching architecture document Matthew.Bocci
- Re: [PWE3] S-PE in stitching architecture document Danny McPherson
- RE: [PWE3] S-PE in stitching architecture document Sasha Vainshtein
- Re: [PWE3] S-PE in stitching architecture document Chandra Ganesh x3890
- RE: [PWE3] S-PE in stitching architecture document Sasha Vainshtein
- Re: [PWE3] S-PE in stitching architecture document Chandra Ganesh x3890
- RE: [PWE3] S-PE in stitching architecture document neil.2.harrison