Re: [Qirg] Update to draft-irtf-qirg-principles

Wojciech Kozlowski <W.Kozlowski@tudelft.nl> Mon, 24 February 2020 12:41 UTC

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> I saw a message about a presentation — have we restarted telecons on this doc?  If so, my apologies on missing that announcement.


There isn't enough time really to organise a teleconf on this doc before the 9 March deadline for drafts so I'll be posting an update soon and having a discussion on the mailing list. However, I have realised that the last section should definitely reflect more than just my thoughts so I will try to organise a face-to-face meeting at the IETF (with a bridge for remote participants). I noticed the preliminary schedule placed us on Tuesday so Monday would be good - will send details later.


Wojtek

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Subject: Re: [Qirg] Update to draft-irtf-qirg-principles

For an architecture doc, I’d say one of the things we need to do is substantially raise the # of references, in context, of course.

For link-layer architectures with memory, there are three major ways you can organize:

* memory-to-memory (M—>M)
* midpoint interference, which we call M—>I<—M and Cody calls meet-in-the-middle
* midpoint source, which we call M<—S—>M

Best reference on these is
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1367-2630/18/8/083015/meta<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__iopscience.iop.org_article_10.1088_1367-2D2630_18_8_083015_meta&d=DwMFaQ&c=XYzUhXBD2cD-CornpT4QE19xOJBbRy-TBPLK0X9U2o8&r=xRe3k8UnFVGCjuC7RWUARpslGfYlRaP7D3dVZXHUEVc&m=9oGH87PwWnOQaZwYFdfDUQYApf4nsDV8Q_-j1B3JBwo&s=ZQsgkvPhFyR8dh5MzPsi7hluRSVQ6-5Yu2mKaLvm6bM&e=>
which, blessedly, is open access.

I saw a message about a presentation — have we restarted telecons on this doc?  If so, my apologies on missing that announcement.

Rodney Van Meter
Professor, Faculty of Environment and Information Studies
Keio University, Japan
rdv@sfc.wide.ad.jp<mailto:rdv@sfc.wide.ad.jp>



On Feb 17, 2020, at 19:17, Wojciech Kozlowski <w.kozlowski@tudelft.nl<mailto:w.kozlowski@tudelft.nl>> wrote:

Dear QIRG,

I have just added a contribution to the elementary link generation section.
Thank you Sara and Marcello.

Latest version:
https://github.com/Wojtek242/draft-irtf-qirg-principles/blob/master/draft-irtf-qirg-principles-03.txt<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_Wojtek242_draft-2Dirtf-2Dqirg-2Dprinciples_blob_master_draft-2Dirtf-2Dqirg-2Dprinciples-2D03.txt&d=DwMFaQ&c=XYzUhXBD2cD-CornpT4QE19xOJBbRy-TBPLK0X9U2o8&r=xRe3k8UnFVGCjuC7RWUARpslGfYlRaP7D3dVZXHUEVc&m=9oGH87PwWnOQaZwYFdfDUQYApf4nsDV8Q_-j1B3JBwo&s=h8UTII244xcn9ku-GQ1u1c--qrLT2IQb_IJrj_IRk00&e=>

Diff:
https://github.com/Wojtek242/draft-irtf-qirg-principles/commit/3952b2f15f3720325ce42c61c8857a2ede1a0f2e<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_Wojtek242_draft-2Dirtf-2Dqirg-2Dprinciples_commit_3952b2f15f3720325ce42c61c8857a2ede1a0f2e&d=DwQFaQ&c=XYzUhXBD2cD-CornpT4QE19xOJBbRy-TBPLK0X9U2o8&r=xRe3k8UnFVGCjuC7RWUARpslGfYlRaP7D3dVZXHUEVc&m=9oGH87PwWnOQaZwYFdfDUQYApf4nsDV8Q_-j1B3JBwo&s=Fja4CVs6SXH5qSbkXF680Wx7RdABeTNEERA0i8uRiPs&e=>

Moving forward: my plan is now to finalise the principles/goals sections. Some
feedback has already been given on this subject and I will try to make sure I
take it all into account.

I propose that for this part, I first write the update myself based on feedback
received so far. If you have something to add with regards to this section,
please share on the mailing list as soon as you can. I will then upload an
update some time next week so that I can incorporate any feedback (deadline for
drafts for this IETF is 9 March).

Unless these last updates lead to much debate, I'd think this will mark the
last few updates to the draft (+ pending PRs). In this case, I would aim to
start finalising it after Vancouver. If there are any contentious issue, I will
aim to resolve them on the mailing list before the next meeting.

Thanks,
Wojtek
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