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RE: negotiating Packet Number Protection

Gabriel Montenegro <Gabriel.Montenegro@microsoft.com> Wed, 12 September 2018 19:23 UTC

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From: Gabriel Montenegro <Gabriel.Montenegro@microsoft.com>
To: Christopher Wood <christopherwood07@gmail.com>
CC: huitema <huitema@huitema.net>, "quic@ietf.org" <quic@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: negotiating Packet Number Protection
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> Albeit simple, I want to echo Martin's earlier comment in that this
> should remain as an extension (if anything at all). I don't think this
> sort of knob should be added to the transport document.

Yes, definitely an extension sounds good.

Lars/Mnot, any thoughts on informational RFC status for the negotiating PNP draft? Perhaps for discussion in New York?

Gabriel

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