Re: Interim meeting request for slides on multipath QUIC use cases and requirements
Cyrill Krähenbühl <cyrill.kraehenbuehl@inf.ethz.ch> Thu, 15 October 2020 17:45 UTC
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Subject: Re: Interim meeting request for slides on multipath QUIC use cases and requirements
To: Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>
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From: Cyrill Krähenbühl <cyrill.kraehenbuehl@inf.ethz.ch>
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Hi Lars, While this use case is not about a very large deployment such as Apple's MPTCP, some of the discussion points in the email thread about the multipath extension milestone (e.g., mapping flows to paths, exchanging control information relevant for multipath between endpoint, policies for scheduling in MPQUIC) resonated with what we are working on. I thought it might be interesting to present a use case in a different area (future Internet architecture) that requires similar functionalities from a multipath transport layer protocol. In any case, if the working group decides to start standardization efforts in this direction, I would be happy to discuss useful functionalities for future Internet architectures at another meeting. Best, Cyrill On 15.10.20 18:36, Lars Eggert wrote: > Hi, > > On 2020-10-15, at 19:17, Cyrill Krähenbühl <cyrill.kraehenbuehl@inf.ethz.ch> wrote: >> In this context, we see two topics of potential interest. First, multipath scheduling, which has a large impact on the performance of a multipath transport protocol, becomes challenging since we might not be able to continuously probe 10+ (or even 100+) paths to infer which paths to send traffic on. >> >> Second, the SCION architecture can offer additional information for paths, for instance AS-level information, lower bound on end-to-end path latency, expected bandwidth, etc. An interesting challenge is how to expose this path information to applications or transport protocols, so that path optimization is possible for instance for different QUIC streams. > ... >> If the working group is interested and this use case has not already been discussed in the group, I would be happy to give a short introduction in the interim meeting. > thanks for the offer! > > There are all kinds of interesting research questions related to multipath in general and for QUIC in particular, including the ones you outline above. > > The reason we're scheduling the interim is to help us decide if the QUIC working group should start any standards activity in the multipath space, and more concretely, what the desired (= currently missing) functionality is that will need standardization. A key focus of interest are the large deployments of IETF QUIC that are currently being planned or are already underway. I'm not sure to what degree a presentation on research challenges would inform that decision? > > Thanks, > Lars > >
- Interim meeting request for slides on multipath Q… Lucas Pardue
- Re: Interim meeting request for slides on multipa… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: Interim meeting request for slides on multipa… Lars Eggert
- Re: Interim meeting request for slides on multipa… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: Interim meeting request for slides on multipa… Martin Duke
- Re: Interim meeting request for slides on multipa… Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
- Re: Interim meeting request for slides on multipa… Cyrill Krähenbühl
- Re: Interim meeting request for slides on multipa… Lars Eggert
- Re: Interim meeting request for slides on multipa… Cyrill Krähenbühl
- Re: Interim meeting request for slides on multipa… Qing An
- Re: Interim meeting request for slides on multipa… Lars Eggert
- Re: Interim meeting request for slides on multipa… Qing An
- Re: Interim meeting request for slides on multipa… Lars Eggert
- Re: Interim meeting request for slides on multipa… Qing An
- Re: Interim meeting request for slides on multipa… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: Interim meeting request for slides on multipa… Christoph Paasch
- Re: Interim meeting request for slides on multipa… Olivier Bonaventure
- Re: Interim meeting request for slides on multipa… Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
- Re: Interim meeting request for slides on multipa… Qing An