Re: [Raw] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-raw-use-cases-08: (with COMMENT)
CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <cjbc@it.uc3m.es> Fri, 02 December 2022 11:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Raw] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-raw-use-cases-08: (with COMMENT)
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OK, thanks a lot Éric! On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 12:27 PM Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke@cisco.com> wrote: > Gracias Carlos for the prompt reply > > > > I agree with all suggested changes (or absence of change as it seems that > in English there is no plural form for aircraft -- I am as puzzled as you!) > > > > At this stage (IESG evaluation), there is no need to contact DRIP and > IPWAVE, but this was a missed opportunity to get more reviews. > > > > Regards > > > > -éric > > > > > > *From: *CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <cjbc@it.uc3m.es> > *Date: *Friday, 2 December 2022 at 11:59 > *To: *Eric Vyncke <evyncke@cisco.com> > *Cc: *The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-raw-use-cases@ietf.org" < > draft-ietf-raw-use-cases@ietf.org>, "raw-chairs@ietf.org" < > raw-chairs@ietf.org>, "raw@ietf.org" <raw@ietf.org>, " > corinna.schmitt@unibw.de" <corinna.schmitt@unibw.de>, " > suresh.krishnan@gmail.com" <suresh.krishnan@gmail.com> > *Subject: *Re: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-raw-use-cases-08: > (with COMMENT) > > > > Dear Éric, > > > > Thanks a lot for your comments. Please see some responses inline below. > > > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2022 at 11:24 AM Éric Vyncke via Datatracker < > noreply@ietf.org> wrote: > > Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-raw-use-cases-08: No Objection > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > Please refer to > https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ > for more information about how to handle DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-raw-use-cases/ > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > COMMENT: > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > # Éric Vyncke, INT AD, comments for draft-ietf-raw-use-cases-08 > CC @evyncke > > Thank you for the work put into this document. I really like the common > format > used for all the use cases. > > Please find below one blocking DISCUSS points (easy to address), some > non-blocking COMMENT points (but replies would be appreciated even if only > for > my own education), and some nits. > > Special thanks to Corinna Schmitt for the shepherd's detailed write-up > including the WG consensus *but* with a very weird justification of the > intended status. > > Please note that Suresh Krishnan is the Internet directorate reviewer (at > my > request) and you may want to consider this int-dir reviews as well: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-raw-use-cases-08-intdir-telechat-krishnan-2022-11-28/ > (I saw that Carlos has already replied) > > I hope that this review helps to improve the document, > > Regards, > > -éric > > ## DISCUSS > > As noted in https://www.ietf.org/blog/handling-iesg-ballot-positions/, a > DISCUSS ballot is a request to have a discussion on the following topics: > > ### > > ## COMMENTS > > ### Shepherd's write-up > > The justification for the intended status is really weird and outdated > (such > write-ups can be updated): ``` Standard Track is mentioned, but reading it > I > assume “Informational” is meant. Request is send out. ``` > > ### Quantitative approach ? > > While this I-D is easy and interesting to read, it would have been more > useful > if actual numbers were given per use case, e.g., bounded latency, max > packet > loss, ... > > > > [Carlos] We'll try to add some quantitative numbers here and there in the > next revision. > > > > > ### Section 1 > > Is the use of capitalized "Deterministic Networking" a reference to the > work of > the DETNET WG ? Then, let's state it else suggest not to use capitalized > words. > Later in the text "DetNet" is used, it would be nice to use a common > naming. > > > > [Carlos] We'll fix this. Thanks! > > > > > ### Section 4.3 > > Are "Ethernet cables" still used ? As opposed to optical fiber (notably for > noise reduction) > > > > [Carlos] Yes, they are in some cases. But I agree it's better to > generalize to "wires" in general and put Ethernet cables and optical fiber > as examples. We'll rewrite this in the next revision. > > > > > ### Section 5 > > Suggest to add a reference to RFC 9317 "Operational Considerations for > Streaming Media" > > > > [Carlos] OK! > > > > > ### Section 7 > > Like Murray, I wonder whether DRIP & IPWAVE WGs were made aware of this > section. > > > > [Carlos] I think DRIP was not chartered yet when we drafted this section > and IPWAVE was not really active (formally closed since very recently). Do > you think we should ask for feedback to DRIP? > > > > > ## NITS > > ### Section 2 > > s/Aircraft are /Aircrafts are / > > > > [Carlos] I think John has mentioned that Aircraft is correct. I'll check > as I'm not a native speaker. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Carlos > > > > > ## Notes > > This review is in the ["IETF Comments" Markdown format][ICMF], You can use > the > [`ietf-comments` tool][ICT] to automatically convert this review into > individual GitHub issues. > > [ICMF]: https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments/blob/main/format.md > [ICT]: https://github.com/mnot/ietf-comments > > >
- [Raw] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-ra… Éric Vyncke via Datatracker
- Re: [Raw] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-iet… CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO
- Re: [Raw] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-iet… Eric Vyncke (evyncke)
- Re: [Raw] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-iet… CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO