Re: [Raw] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-raw-use-cases-08: (with COMMENT)

["Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <[e-mail]>]

Gracias Carlos for the prompt reply

I agree with all suggested changes (or absence of change as it seems that in English there is no plural form for aircraft -- I am as puzzled as you!)

At this stage (IESG evaluation), there is no need to contact DRIP and IPWAVE, but this was a missed opportunity to get more reviews.

Regards

-éric


From: CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <[e-mail]>
Date: Friday, 2 December 2022 at 11:59
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Subject: Re: Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-raw-use-cases-08: (with COMMENT)

Dear Éric,

Thanks a lot for your comments. Please see some responses inline below.

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# Éric Vyncke, INT AD, comments for draft-ietf-raw-use-cases-08
CC @evyncke

Thank you for the work put into this document. I really like the common format
used for all the use cases.

Please find below one blocking DISCUSS points (easy to address), some
non-blocking COMMENT points (but replies would be appreciated even if only for
my own education), and some nits.

Special thanks to Corinna Schmitt for the shepherd's detailed write-up
including the WG consensus *but* with a very weird justification of the
intended status.

Please note that Suresh Krishnan is the Internet directorate reviewer (at my
request) and you may want to consider this int-dir reviews as well:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/review-ietf-raw-use-cases-08-intdir-telechat-krishnan-2022-11-28/
(I saw that Carlos has already replied)

I hope that this review helps to improve the document,

Regards,

-éric

## DISCUSS

As noted in https://www.ietf.org/blog/handling-iesg-ballot-positions/, a
DISCUSS ballot is a request to have a discussion on the following topics:

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## COMMENTS

### Shepherd's write-up

The justification for the intended status is really weird and outdated (such
write-ups can be updated): ``` Standard Track is mentioned, but reading it I
assume “Informational” is meant. Request is send out. ```

### Quantitative approach ?

While this I-D is easy and interesting to read, it would have been more useful
if actual numbers were given per use case, e.g., bounded latency, max packet
loss, ...

[Carlos] We'll try to add some quantitative numbers here and there in the next revision.


### Section 1

Is the use of capitalized "Deterministic Networking" a reference to the work of
the DETNET WG ? Then, let's state it else suggest not to use capitalized words.
Later in the text "DetNet" is used, it would be nice to use a common naming.

[Carlos] We'll fix this. Thanks!


### Section 4.3

Are "Ethernet cables" still used ? As opposed to optical fiber (notably for
noise reduction)

[Carlos] Yes, they are in some cases. But I agree it's better to generalize to "wires" in general and put Ethernet cables and optical fiber as examples. We'll rewrite this in the next revision.


### Section 5

Suggest to add a reference to RFC 9317 "Operational Considerations for
Streaming Media"

[Carlos] OK!


### Section 7

Like Murray, I wonder whether DRIP & IPWAVE WGs were made aware of this section.

[Carlos] I think DRIP was not chartered yet when we drafted this section and IPWAVE was not really active (formally closed since very recently). Do you think we should ask for feedback to DRIP?


## NITS

### Section 2

s/Aircraft are /Aircrafts are /

[Carlos] I think John has mentioned that Aircraft is correct. I'll check as I'm not a native speaker.

Thanks!

Carlos


## Notes

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