Re: [Raw] Roman Danyliw's Discuss on draft-ietf-raw-use-cases-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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One brief reply --

> On Nov 29, 2022, at 5:46 PM, CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <cjbc@it.uc3m.es> wrote:
> 
> ** Section 3.1.
>    Such
>    deployment is a mix between industrial automation (i.e., Smart
>    Factories) and multimedia entertainment applications.
> 
> In what way is “industrial automation” and “Smart Factories” the same in this
> example?  One seems to connote automation of operational technology (as opposed
> to IT).  The other seems to be a marketing term for OT building things – I’m
> not sure.
> 
> [Carlos] We used the terms not to be synonyms.

My bad for not catching this in my review — “i.e.” is the Latin “id est” or in English, “that is”, you can casually expand it as “in other words”. So even though you intended that “Smart Factories” should be an example, what you mistakenly wrote was that it is a synonym. What you wanted was “e.g.” which indicates an example. https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/ie-vs-eg-abbreviation-meaning-usage-difference

I often guide people to avoid using either “i.e.” or “e.g.” because of this common confusion, and instead to write out “in other words” or “for example”.

(And yes, removing the entire parenthetical comment would be a fine fix.)

Thanks,

—John