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Subject: Re: [rfc-i] getting SVG of RFC diagrams
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Carsten,

On 11/26/23 12:34 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
> On 2023-11-24, at 17:47, Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> This could lead to:
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9334/svg/layered-attester.svg
>>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9334/ascii-art/layered-attester.ascii-art
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cbor-edn-literal/abnf/cbor-edn.abnf
>>
>> Yes! This is the sort of thing I'm wishing for.
> 
> I put in a proof of concept at

This is a great proof of concept. It is very much like I was imagining.
I'm not sure exactly how you are constructing the names of the parts. 
But the details of that can be bike shedded as needed.

> https://tzi.org/~cabo/rfc
> 
> E.g., see:
> 
> https://tzi.org/~cabo/rfc/rfc9334/svg/layered-attester.svg
> https://tzi.org/~cabo/rfc/rfc9334/ascii-art/layered-attester.ascii-art
> 
> I haven’t done the work for I-Ds yet, this will follow soon.
> 
> You can look at these extracted attachments in the browser, as well as save them or wget/curl them.
> 
> (Obviously, this only works reliably for RFC 8650 and later, so the PoC is limited to that.)

Question: are you actually extracting and storing all the pieces as a 
preprocessing step? Or is this virtual, where the pieces are extracted 
on demand?

If you are using a preprocessing step to extract the pieces, this could 
be made to work for docs prior to 8650 by using ad hoc techniques to 
extract the pieces from the .txt file. That could be done gradually on a 
demand basis. That would however require some sort of review process to 
ensure that is is done correctly.

	Thanks!!!
	Paul

>> There remains the issue of discovering what parts are available for a given document. It has been suggested that hovering over the part in the html rendering could show the name. Another possibility (not mutually exclusive) is to have the datatracker and the info page for the document:
>>
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfcNNNN
> 
> I just made
> 
> https://tzi.org/~cabo/rfc/rfc9334/svg
> https://tzi.org/~cabo/rfc/rfc9334/ascii-art
> https://tzi.org/~cabo/rfc/rfc9334
> and
> https://tzi.org/~cabo/rfc
> 
> into collection pages (implemented as directory listings, as I’m lazy).
> Content and styling is a bit quaint, but could be fixed easily.
> 
> Grüße, Carsten
>

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