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Re: [rfc-i] RECOMMENDS

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Thu, 04 January 2024 16:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rfc-i] RECOMMENDS
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Am 04.01.2024 um 17:18 schrieb Bob Hinden:
> Hi,
>
>> On Jan 3, 2024, at 8:11 AM, Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Like Michael, I'm also the author of an RFC (8469) that uses the
>> phrase "This document RECOMMENDS ...". As Brian noted, we could have
>> used "It is RECOMMENDED that..." but we preferred the active voice,
>> and obviously the IESG and RFC Editor had no problem with it. I also
>> agree that it should be made official.
>
> +1
>
> I also like the active voice.
>
> Perhaps an errata can be filed that makes this clearer.
>
> Bob

I don't think this qualifies as "erratum". It's a feature request.

Best regards, Julian

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