Re: [rfc-i] Archival format to rfc-interest and the IAB
Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 21 February 2020 00:45 UTC
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From: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 16:44:53 -0800
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To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [rfc-i] Archival format to rfc-interest and the IAB
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On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 3:34 PM Brian E Carpenter < brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm sorry, Sarah, I am simply incapable of understanding where this fits > into "oversight". Please re-review the initial message, especially this bit: It could be that having multiple such formats in the corpus of RFCs will be > an acceptable outcome; or, a decision could be made to re-publish the > affected "interim format" RFCs in the final v3 format. We don't believe > it's necessary to make that decision now, but we're sharing this > information with the broader community for discussion. > The RSOC is not making a decision here, it is ensuring that the community knows the topic needs discussion. > If it's anybody's problem operationally, it's John Levine's; and if there > is a strategic concern it presumably belongs to the IETF Trust, which owns > the IPR and therefore needs to be concerned about the long-term integrity > of documents. > The IAB has published the format documents historically, not the trust. This is a question ultimately about the formats in the RFC series, not the IPR conditions under which they are licensed. best regards, Ted Hardie > > Regards > Brian Carpenter > > On 20-Feb-20 12:58, Sarah Banks wrote: > > Hi Brian, > > It’s coming from the RSOC because we do not currently have an RSE. We > currently do not have an acting RSE. We have a person in situ doing his > finest to hold down tactical items while the community figures out the RSE > business. Because this item felt like it couldn’t be simply shelved until > there is an RSE the RSOC, including the temp PM, decided to share this note > in the spirit of transparency. It’s not a new discussion in the RSOC, > simply a byproduct of the desire to share info. > > > > Thanks > > Sarah > > > >> On Feb 13, 2020, at 12:14 PM, Brian E Carpenter < > brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Sarah, > >> > >> This is not about the technical aspect of your message. > >> > >> Can you clarify why this is RSOC business? I don't understand where it > fits in https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6635#section-3.1. I would have > expected any proposals to come from the (acting) RSE. > >> > >> Regards > >> Brian Carpenter > >> > >>> On 14-Feb-20 08:10, Sarah Banks wrote: > >>> Hello IAB and RFC-interest community, > >>> > >>> The RSOC has been following discussion of the issues encountered in > deploying the v3 RFC format. These issues have necessitated several changes > to the format as bugs and ambiguities are found. While we believe that this > is necessary, we have a concern that the incremental nature of these > changes will result in will result in RFCs published in more than one XML > format over time, as the adjustments are made. > >>> > >>> The Temporary RFC Series Project Manager is currently investigating > how many of the already-executed as well as anticipated changes might > result in backwards-incompatible changes to the format, to get a better > sense of scale. > >>> > >>> It could be that having multiple such formats in the corpus of RFCs > will be an acceptable outcome; or, a decision could be made to re-publish > the affected "interim format" RFCs in the final v3 format. We don't believe > it's necessary to make that decision now, but we're sharing this > information with the broader community for discussion. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Sarah > >>> For the RSOC > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> rfc-interest mailing list > >>> rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org > >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest > >>> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > rfc-interest mailing list > rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org > https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest >
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- [rfc-i] Archival format to rfc-interest and the I… Sarah Banks
- Re: [rfc-i] Archival format to rfc-interest and t… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [rfc-i] [Rsoc] Archival format to rfc-interes… John R. Levine
- Re: [rfc-i] Archival format to rfc-interest and t… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] Archival format to rfc-interest and t… Sarah Banks
- Re: [rfc-i] Archival format to rfc-interest and t… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] Archival format to rfc-interest and t… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rfc-i] Archival format to rfc-interest and t… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [rfc-i] Archival format to rfc-interest and t… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [rfc-i] [Rsoc] Archival format to rfc-interes… John R. Levine
- Re: [rfc-i] [IAB] [Rsoc] Archival format to rfc-i… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [rfc-i] [IAB] [Rsoc] Archival format to rfc-i… Julian Reschke
- Re: [rfc-i] [IAB] [Rsoc] Archival format to rfc-i… John R. Levine
- Re: [rfc-i] [IAB] [Rsoc] Archival format to rfc-i… Julian Reschke
- Re: [rfc-i] [IAB] [Rsoc] Archival format to rfc-i… John R. Levine
- Re: [rfc-i] [IAB] [Rsoc] Archival format to rfc-i… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [rfc-i] [IAB] [Rsoc] Archival format to rfc-i… Julian Reschke
- Re: [rfc-i] [IAB] [Rsoc] Archival format to rfc-i… Ronald Tse
- Re: [rfc-i] [IAB] [Rsoc] Archival format to rfc-i… Carsten Bormann
- [rfc-i] [Rsoc] Archival format to rfc-interest an… Julian Reschke