Re: [rfc-i] Inserting SVG graphics into an IETF draft

"Paul Duffy (paduffy)" <paduffy=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> Wed, 25 May 2022 13:10 UTC

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To: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>, "rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org" <rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org>
Thread-Topic: [rfc-i] Inserting SVG graphics into an IETF draft
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Subject: Re: [rfc-i] Inserting SVG graphics into an IETF draft
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X-Original-From: "Paul Duffy (paduffy)" <paduffy@cisco.com>
From: "Paul Duffy (paduffy)" <paduffy=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>

Hi Martin

I offered the Alex/Bob example as simply that ... a simple example.  A starting point to focus this discussion.

The actual diagrams I have coming are far more complex.

Cheers

-----Original Message-----
From: rfc-interest <rfc-interest-bounces@rfc-editor.org> On Behalf Of Martin Thomson
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 8:16 PM
To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org
Subject: Re: [rfc-i] Inserting SVG graphics into an IETF draft

I still draw ASCII art.  It seems like you could do the same for this example.

aasvg [1] produces acceptable SVG from ASCII art that is guaranteed to be acceptable to svgcheck and RFC 7996 [2].  Example: https://httpwg.org/http2-spec/draft-ietf-httpbis-http2bis.html#figure-2

[1] https://github.com/martinthomson/aasvg
[2] With default options and one caveat: it puts width and height attributes on the <svg> element, which xml2rfc doesn't like.  But xml2rfc is wrong to complain.

On Wed, May 25, 2022, at 09:11, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> In my experience, dia is just about the only tool that gets close to 
> meeting RFC7996 requirements. Whatever tool Paul used generates 
> constructs that RFC7996 disallows, and svgcheck therefore removes.
>
> Even Alice's version doesn't scale properly. My personal fixup tool 
> produced the attached from Alice's, which does allow scaling.
>
> Major surgery is needed rather than fixup tools.
>
> Regards
>     Brian
>
> On 25-May-22 05:02, Alice Russo wrote:
>> Hi Paul,
>> 
>> I ran your file through svgcheck [1] w/ the -r repair option, edited the output in Dia bc it had removed all the text, ran svgcheck -r again to get a file for which it says 'File conforms to SVG requirements.' Here's the file in case it's useful:
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/v3test/AliceBobSample_alt.svg
>> 
>> Alice
>> 
>> [1] https://github.com/ietf-tools/RfcEditor/tree/master/svgcheck
>> 
>>> On May 24, 2022, at 9:21 AM, Paul Duffy (paduffy) <paduffy=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Jay, but I've already been there.
>>>
>>> The SVG generated by my production tool is not accepted by the IETF validators (despite the fact it is fine with any other SVG viewer I have tried).
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jay Daley <exec-director@ietf.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 12:14 PM
>>> To: Paul Duffy (paduffy) <paduffy@cisco.com>
>>> Cc: RFC Interest <rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [rfc-i] Inserting SVG graphics into an IETF draft
>>>
>>> Hi Paul
>>>
>>>> On 24 May 2022, at 17:01, Paul Duffy (paduffy) <paduffy=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Greetings all
>>>>
>>>> After much material review and head scratching, I have an intentionally open-ended question to ask.
>>>>
>>>> Please find attached a sample Kramdown draft and related SVG graphic.  This SVG displays corrected on all of the 12 or so viewers I have tried.
>>>>
>>>> How do I incorporate this SVG into the RFC draft?
>>>
>>>
>>> See the documentation at https://authors.ietf.org/en/diagrams
>>>
>>> kind regards
>>> Jay
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
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