Re: [Rfc-markdown] [Ext] [Tools-discuss] New xml2rfc release: v3.16.0

Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org> Thu, 19 January 2023 17:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Rfc-markdown] [Ext] [Tools-discuss] New xml2rfc release: v3.16.0
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Hi Paul,

Responding in the order I received answer.

On 1/19/23 08:12, Paul Hoffman wrote:
> 
> On Jan 19, 2023, at 7:41 AM, Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 1/18/23 14:09, Kesara Rathnayake wrote:
>>> See https://github.com/ietf-tools/xml2rfc/releases/tag/v3.16.0 for
>>> release details.
>>>
>>> New changes include,
>>> * Permit non-ASCII within <t> without the use of <u>.
>>
>> Isn't an unconditional use of non-ASCII a violation of RFC 7997?
> 
> It should not be, but it would be good to hear which parts of 7997 you think would be violated so we can update the RFC.
> 

I summarized the rules in my response to Jay.  As RFC 7997 clearly listed a finite list of exceptions to the "no Unicode rule".  Permitting Unicode characters in <t> element clearly extends that list, and so violates RFC 7997.

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