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Re: [Rfc-markdown] [xml2rfc] [Ext] [Tools-discuss] New xml2rfc release: v3.16.0

Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org> Fri, 20 January 2023 13:08 UTC

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On 1/19/23 21:16, Martin J. Dürst wrote:
> On 2023-01-20 02:28, Marc Petit-Huguenin wrote:
> 
>> Responding in the order I received answer.
>>
>> On 1/19/23 08:12, Paul Hoffman wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jan 19, 2023, at 7:41 AM, Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 1/18/23 14:09, Kesara Rathnayake wrote:
>>>>> See https://github.com/ietf-tools/xml2rfc/releases/tag/v3.16.0 for
>>>>> release details.
>>>>>
>>>>> New changes include,
>>>>> * Permit non-ASCII within <t> without the use of <u>.
>>>>
>>>> Isn't an unconditional use of non-ASCII a violation of RFC 7997?
>>>
>>> It should not be, but it would be good to hear which parts of 7997 you think would be violated so we can update the RFC.
>>>
>>
>> I summarized the rules in my response to Jay.  As RFC 7997 clearly listed a finite list of exceptions to the "no Unicode rule".  Permitting Unicode characters in <t> element clearly extends that list, and so violates RFC 7997.
> 
> Let's say I have a draft/RFC-to-be that contains the word "protokol" (Javanese (and probably a few other languages, although not German, that would be Protokoll) for protocol) somewhere inside <t>. As Jay has mentioned (and everybody here knows), our documents are in English, and so the word "protokol" is an error. Can you explain why it is technically allowed inside the <t> element?

I fail to see how this example is related to allowing all Unicode codepoints in <t> or to RFC 7997.

> 
> Please note that the improvement made in xml2rfc v3.16.0 wasn't because somebody wanted to use non-ASCII characters willy-nilly, but because they wanted to follow RFC 7997, but had to resort to hacks to get around unjustified tool limitations.

Again, there was better ways to do that than giving up entirely.

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