Re: [Rfced-future] Filling the RSCE position (was: Re: Comments on -07)

[S Moonesamy <[e-mail]>]

Hi John,
At 04:38 PM 11-01-2022, John C Klensin wrote:
>If you want to look at it in those terms (I, personally, don't
>think it is particularly helpful), this group can specify any
>selection process it concludes would be desirable and effective,
>including having the RSAB or RSWG make open calls to the
>community for search committee members, select that committee,
>and have them go looking for an appropriate person to be RSCE.
>If we had them do that, that committee would then presumably ask
>the LLC to negotiate a contract with that person.  Presumably
>the LLC could say "no, we won't do that" but I wouldn't expect
>that and, if they did so without good reason, I assume there
>would be an IETF community meltdown, the likes of which we have
>not seen since the one popularly associated with the IAB meeting
>in Kobe.
>
>Again, I don't think that would be desirable, but the decisions
>as to the process by which the RSCE is chosen really belong to
>this group.  If the group believes that it is good to have the
>LLC responsible for the selection process (not just the
>contracting one), that is fine but, if the group also believes
>it wants to give the LLC guidance in how that is done, we should
>be able to assume that the LLC will follow that guidance.   If
>we feel that we cannot make that assumption, then turning over
>authority to make the selection to the LLC would be, to use the
>precise technical term, really stupid.
>
>That does suggest something we should (SHOULD ?) do before the
>Last Call which Eliot just announced to be pending: just as the
>IETF Last Call and IESG process involves formally asking IANA
>(also an "external organization" if the LLC is one), we should
>formally ask the LLC if they see any difficulties in accepting
>and implementing any of the provisions of the document and. if
>so, what they are.  If they do, those provisions of the document
>probably need adjustment.

The point I was trying to make was to understand the different 
boundaries and fit what the group would like to see within them.  The 
LLC is, if I am not mistaken, responsible for appointing people to 
the selection committee.  That committee makes a recommendation and 
the LLC takes the decision.

The last (quoted) paragraph might be {1] a practical way to tackle 
the matter.  Someone asks the LLC nicely and the LLC responds as per 
usual protocol.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy

1. I may be incorrect as I don't know the intricacies of the LLC.