Re: [Rfced-future] Filling the RSCE position (was: Re: Comments on -07)

[Eliot Lear <[e-mail]>]

Hi Mirja,

On 03.01.22 14:43, Mirja Kuehlewind wrote:
> This is the text in draft:
>
> "The IETF LLC will form a selection committee, including members from 
> the community, that will be responsible for making a recommendation to 
> the IETF LLC for the RSCE role.”

> [snip]

> However, I would also like to note that th text says the LCC Board 
> forms the selection committee and not the ED. While these are 
> internals on how the LLC Board manages itself, I would assume that’s 
> rather a job for the LLC Board chair with approval of the whole 
> (community-selected) board than the ED. This issue was discussed and 
> confirmed (changing responsibility from the ED to the whole LLC board 
> in GitHub issue #40).

Yes, that was indeed Issue 40 which you opened in April and was closed 
after we discussed it in detail and came to a conclusion in July.  
However, by design, the text above does *not* refer to the board, but 
rather to the LLC.  The sentiment that carried the day at the time was 
perhaps best summarized by Martin Thomson:

> Split the difference and say the LLC is responsible, this would likely 
> fall to the Executive Director, but no need to explicitly specify that
(See the notes <https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-111-rfcefdp#>).

It's not that the LLC board DOES decide or that the ED decides on the 
RSCE position, but rather it is for the the LLC board to decide whether 
to delegate that decision.

What I am drawing from all of this, by the way, is the importance of 
closing this document, because people really are losing context of the 
decisions that have been made.  The chairs will have more to say on that 
shortly.

Eliot