Re: [Rfced-future] Filling the RSCE position (was: Re: Comments on -07)

[Peter Saint-Andre <[e-mail]>]

On 1/3/22 7:51 AM, Eliot Lear wrote:
> Hi Mirja,
> 
> On 03.01.22 14:43, Mirja Kuehlewind wrote:
>> This is the text in draft:
>>
>> "The IETF LLC will form a selection committee, including members from 
>> the community, that will be responsible for making a recommendation to 
>> the IETF LLC for the RSCE role.”
> 
>> [snip]
> 
>> However, I would also like to note that th text says the LCC Board 
>> forms the selection committee and not the ED. While these are 
>> internals on how the LLC Board manages itself, I would assume that’s 
>> rather a job for the LLC Board chair with approval of the whole 
>> (community-selected) board than the ED. This issue was discussed and 
>> confirmed (changing responsibility from the ED to the whole LLC board 
>> in GitHub issue #40).
> 
> Yes, that was indeed Issue 40 which you opened in April and was closed 
> after we discussed it in detail and came to a conclusion in July.  
> However, by design, the text above does *not* refer to the board, but 
> rather to the LLC.  The sentiment that carried the day at the time was 
> perhaps best summarized by Martin Thomson:
> 
>> Split the difference and say the LLC is responsible, this would likely 
>> fall to the Executive Director, but no need to explicitly specify that
> (See the notes <https://notes.ietf.org/notes-ietf-111-rfcefdp#>).
> 
> It's not that the LLC board DOES decide or that the ED decides on the 
> RSCE position, but rather it is for the the LLC board to decide whether 
> to delegate that decision.
> 
> What I am drawing from all of this, by the way, is the importance of 
> closing this document, because people really are losing context of the 
> decisions that have been made.  The chairs will have more to say on that 
> shortly.

Your document editor has gotten lost in reading this thread. Does 
someone have proposed text?

Peter