Re: [Rfced-future] Sectiion 4.3 on RPC Responsibilities (was: Re: Fwd: [I18ndir] I18ndir last call review of draft-iab-rfcefdp-rfced-model-11_

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im>, "Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
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Thread-Topic: [Rfced-future] Sectiion 4.3 on RPC Responsibilities (was: Re: Fwd: [I18ndir] I18ndir last call review of draft-iab-rfcefdp-rfced-model-11_
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Subject: Re: [Rfced-future] Sectiion 4.3 on RPC Responsibilities (was: Re: Fwd: [I18ndir] I18ndir last call review of draft-iab-rfcefdp-rfced-model-11_
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>    I'm not a big fan of saying "or its successor" everywhere because the 
    point of specifying that a new RFC updates or obsoletes an old RFC is 
    that the reader should be able to follow the trail and find the new one.

Strongly agree.

Otherwise we could (and by this reasoning, should) add "or its successor" to almost every cross-reference.