Re: [Rfced-future] Sectiion 4.3 on RPC Responsibilities (was: Re: Fwd: [I18ndir] I18ndir last call review of draft-iab-rfcefdp-rfced-model-11_

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Subject: Re: [Rfced-future] Sectiion 4.3 on RPC Responsibilities (was: Re: Fwd: [I18ndir] I18ndir last call review of draft-iab-rfcefdp-rfced-model-11_
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On 3/3/22 8:53 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> On 04-Mar-22 16:39, John C Klensin wrote:
>>
>>
>> --On Thursday, March 3, 2022 19:30 -0700 Peter Saint-Andre
>> <stpeter@stpeter.im> wrote:
>>
>>> ...
>>>>>> (i) 4.3(1) implies that editing it done only to bring
>>>>>> documents into conformance with the Style Guide.  That may
>>>>>> be inconsistent with other points that imply other reasons
>>> ...
>>>> The term "conformance" is a bit odd in that context ("comply"
>>>> even more so) and, IMO, "general", "intent" or some other term
>>>> is helpful.  One could even say:
>>> ...
>>
>>> I propose:
>>>
>>> 1. Editing documents originating from all RFC streams to
>>> ensure that
>>>      they adhere to editorial standards specified in the RFC
>>> Style Guide.
>>
>> Still feels over-specific given the (IMO desirable) flexibility
>> of the past.  Think about replacing "that they adhere to" with
>> "consistent with" (the collective documents that make up the
>> Style Guide actually allow more than enough flexibility).
> 
> Yes. The words "guide" and "must" do not sit well together.
> I'm sure there will always be exceptions to any style rule,
> and I think we need text here that allows for that.

I see your point. So (under Working Practices):

* Maintenance of a style guide that defines editorial standards for
   RFCs; specifically, the RFC Style Guide consists of {{RFC7322}} and
   associated documents and resources listed at {{STYLEGUIDE}}.

and (under RPC Responsibilities):

1. Editing documents originating from all RFC streams to ensure that
    they are consistent with the editorial standards specified in the
    RFC Style Guide.

Peter