Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re: [admin-discuss] Public archival of AUTH48 communications)
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Subject: Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re: [admin-discuss] Public archival of AUTH48 communications)
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I have rather the opposite concern about this conversation. We seem to be moving in a direction where the RSWG is responsible for managing all aspects of the RPC operation. Tactical as well as strategic. That does not match what I thought we agreed. Yours, Joel On 3/2/2022 2:22 PM, Michael Richardson wrote: > > Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> wrote: > > I thought about this a bit, and it's not immediately obvious to me that > > procedures for AUTH48 handling are under the purview of the RSWG. > > I don't mind if AUTH48 options are under the purview of the RSWG. > That might require that we ask the RSWG to amend itself, and I'm okay with that. > > > could see an argument being made that they are under the purview of the > > individual streams. There are already minor differences between the > > streams, for example, the IRSG is in the loop for AUTH48 exchanges or > > the IRTF stream, but the IESG is not for the IETF stream. > > It seems that there are a few boolean options that different streams might > want to turn on off, and at the least, we should say what they are. > In the end, it might be that things are the way they are because the > different stream managers were ignorant of the options. > > > It's true that so far, all streams have used - more or less, see above > > - the same process for handling AUTH48 processing. If that is intended > > to be one of the invariants of the RFC series, I agree that any changes > > would be under the purview of the RSWG, and any changes would then also > > apply to all streams. > > I would prefer that AUTH48 process didn't varry much, or at all. > > > But I could also see a future where one stream would want to revise how > > AUTH48 should be handled for their documents. If this is something we > > would like to allow - and personally (with no hats) I think that could > > be attractive - then I don't see how this could be under the purview of > > the RSWG, given that they are setting policies for the series (but not > > the individual streams). > > I guess the only reason I think that we should allow variances is so that > smaller groups can try something new, innovate, and then report their > results. It otherwise seems like change for change's sake to me. > > > > > -- > Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca> . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting ) > Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > rfc-interest mailing list > rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org > https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest
- [Rfced-future] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re: [admin-disc… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Christian Huitema
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Jean Mahoney
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Christian Huitema
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] [rfc-i] RSWG & AUTH48 (was Re:… Michael Richardson