Re: [Rift] WG adoption call for draft-przygienda-rift-05

Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 12 April 2018 16:17 UTC

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Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 18:16:58 +0200
From: Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>
To: Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>, "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
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I think you should talk to J IPR person and ask for an assessment, I wouldn’t disclose before 

 

Cheers,

Jeff

From: Tony Przygienda <tonysietf@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, April 12, 2018 at 18:13
To: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
Cc: John E Drake <jdrake@juniper.net>, Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail.com>, "rift@ietf.org" <rift@ietf.org>, "rift-chairs@ietf.org" <rift-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Rift] WG adoption call for draft-przygienda-rift-05

 

ok, chairs, so what's the policy, if in doubt disclose? 

I don't see any danger if, as Pascal says, it has been all properly put out for 6550 anyway ... 

I read 6550 years ago and thought it a clever solution to a profitable, highly constrained routing problem but I never thought that RIFT somehow relates to it (except having had the realization reading RPL that it's ok to not do a generic graph for everything I remember). I'm having fun talking to Pascal now and discovering that we came from opposite side of the engineering spectrum (RPL for overly meshed topology  that it prunues and low speed/power and RIFT from pre-wired topology variants @ very high speed & scalability) and the same branches of graph theory were attracting both of us to solve the problems ;-) 

 

thanks 

--- tony 

 

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 6:53 AM, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@cisco.com> wrote:

 

IANAL:

Though it is really far-fetched, there may be a conceptual inheritance from IPR disclosed by Cisco related to RPL (RFC 6550) for the concept of north/south split. 

Even so, that IPR was declared to the IETF and RAND terms were announced at the time.

 

This being said:

I’m not aware of any undisclosed IPR.

 

All the best;

 

Pascal

 

From: Rift <rift-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of John E Drake
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Subject: Re: [Rift] WG adoption call for draft-przygienda-rift-05

 

I’m not aware of any undisclosed IPR

 

Yours Irrespectively,

 

John

 

From: Rift <rift-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Jeff Tantsura
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 3:22 PM
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Subject: [Rift] WG adoption call for draft-przygienda-rift-05

 

Hi RIFT,

 

Request for WG adoption of draft-przygienda-rift-05.

 

The authors have requested the RIFT to adopt draft-przygienda-rift-05 as the working group documents.

Please indicate support or no-support by April 15, 2018.

 

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to this email stating of whether or not you are aware of any relevant IPR. The response needs to be sent to the RIFT mailing list. The document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been received from each author and each individual that has contributed to the document.

 

Thanks,

Jeff & Jeffrey

 

 


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