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Re: [Roll] impacts of rfc2460bis on draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Thu, 21 July 2016 05:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Roll] impacts of rfc2460bis on draft-ietf-roll-useofrplinfo
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On 21/07/2016 12:21, Michael Richardson wrote:
> 
> Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:
>     > today, at ROLL, we went through some slides to explain the improvements that
>     > 2460bis "Note" does for us.   Here are the link to the slides:
> 
> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/slides/slides-96-roll-2.pdf
> starting at slide 9.
> I will probably fix some minor typos and fill some missing labels
> to make it stand-alone

Again, I'm OK with the "Note" as a compromise to get us to Internet Standard.
Without the "Note" the compromise breaks. Remember, for Internet Standard we
are focussed on proven Internet-wide interoperability.

Once that's done I think we should circle around again and look seriously
at this and other "local use" issues. What should we say on top of
Internet-wide standard about local use? We have a clear local use mechanism
for DSCPs. We argued through the same issue for the latest revision of the
flow label standard. For that matter, ULAs and NPTv6 also touch local use
issues. I think it's a future work item after shipping 2460bis.

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