Re: [Roll] energy metric for IPv6 links (was: Fwd: I-D Action:draft-dt-roll-rpl-00.txt Q1)
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Subject: Re: [Roll] energy metric for IPv6 links (was: Fwd: I-D Action:draft-dt-roll-rpl-00.txt Q1)
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Hi Alex, We can certainly continue the discussion on whether we need a link energy metric. For the ID, it will be updated once a routing protocol will have been chosen by the WG. Thanks. JP. On Jul 2, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > About the metrics discussion. > > As mentioned before, I think and believe an energy metric for IPv6 > links can be useful. It is related to energy needed to send an > 1280byte IPv6 packet on a certain link hop. > > I propose 4 encodings: for RA, for RIPng and two for OSPF (one link > metric and one multi-link cumulative metric). > > Energy Metric Option in Router Advertisement: > +-----------+ +-----------------+ +--+ +-------+ > |Base Header| ...|Extension Headers| |RA| ...|Options| > +-----------+ +-----------------+ +--+ +-------+ > > 0 1 2 3 > 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | Type | Length | Reserved | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | Max Link Energy | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | Min Link Energy | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > Energy Metric Encoded in RIPng RTE: > +-----------+ +-----------------+ +---+ +----+ > |Base Header| ...|Extension Headers| |UDP| ...|RTEs| > +-----------+ +-----------------+ +---+ +----+ > +-----------+ +------------++-----------+ +------------+ > +-----------+ > |NextHop1RTE| |Address1 RTE||Energy1 RTE| |Address2 RTE||Energy2 > RTE| > +-----------+ +------------++-----------+ +------------+ > +-----------+ > > 0 1 2 3 > 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | Max Link Energy | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | Min Link Energy | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | route tag (2) | prefix len (1)| Energy Metric | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > Energy Metric Encoded in OSPF Opaque LSA > > +-----------+ +-----------------+ +----------+ +----+ > |Base Header| ...|Extension Headers| |OSPFheader| ...|LSAs| > +-----------+ +-----------------+ +----------+ +----+ > > 0 1 2 3 > 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | LS age | Options | 9, 10, or 11 | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | Opaque Type | Opaque ID | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | Advertising Router | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | LS Sequence Number | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | LS checksum | Length | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | | > +- -+ > | | > +- Link-local Interface Address -+ > | | > +- -+ > | | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | Max Link Energy | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | Min Link Energy | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > I also propose encoding the Energy metric for several IPv6 links by > expressing the metric in terms of the cost to reach a prefix. > > 0 1 2 3 > 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | LS age | Options | 9, 10, or 11 | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | Opaque Type | Opaque ID | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | Advertising Router | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | LS Sequence Number | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | LS checksum | Length | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | # prefixes | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | PrefixLength | PrefixOptions | 0 | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | Address Prefix | > | | > | | > | | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | Max Link Energy | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | Min Link Energy | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | ... | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | PrefixLength | PrefixOptions | 0 | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | Address Prefix | > | | > | | > | | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | Max Link Energy | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > | Min Link Energy | > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > The related biblio follows: > [callaway-lowpower] > Callaway, E., "Secure Low-Power Operation of Wireless > Sensor Networks", January 2004. > > [dsr-encoding-energy] > Doshi, S., Bhandare, S., and T. Brown, "An On-demand > Minimum Energy Routing Protocol for a Wireless Ad Hoc > Network", Mobile Computing and Communications > Review, Volume 6, pp. 50-66, 2002. > > [efficiency-centric-communication] > Cao, Q., He, T., Fang, L., Abdelzaher, T., Stankovic, J., > and S. Son, "Efficiency Centric Communication Model for > Wireless Sensor Networks", INFOCOM 2006. 25th IEEE > International Conference on Computer Communications. > Proceedings pp. 1-12, April 2006. > > [energy-aware-routing] > Shah, R. and J. Rabaey, "Energy Aware Routing for Low > Energy Ad Hoc Sensor Networks", Wireless Communications > and Networking Conference, 2002. WCNC2002. 2002 > IEEE Volume 1, pp. 350-355, March 2002. > > [energy-conserving] > Chang, J-H. and L. Tassiulas, "Energy Conserving Routing > in Wireless Ad-hoc Networks", INFOCOM 2000. Nineteenth > Annual Joint Conference of the IEEE Computer and > Communications Societies. Proceedings. IEEE, Volume 1, pp > 22-31, 2000. > > [energy-efficient-aodv] > Nie, N. and C. Comaniciu, "Energy Efficient AODV Routing > in CDMA Ad Hoc Networks Using Beamforming", EURASIP > Journal on Wireless Communications and Networking pp. > 14-14, 2006. > > [energy-efficient-communication] > Heinzelman, W., Chandrakasan, A., and H. Balakrishnan, > "Energy-Efficient Communication Protocol for Wireless > Microsensor Networks", Proceedings of the 33rd Hawaii > International Conference on System Sciences, HICSS Volume > 8, 2000. > > [energy-efficient-forwarding] > Busse, M., Haenselmann, T., and W. Effelsberg, "Energy- > Efficient Forwarding Schemes for Wireless Sensor > Networks", Proceedings of the 2006 International > Symposium > on on World of Wireless, Mobile and Multimedia > Networks pp. 125-133, 2006. > > [investigating-energy] > Finnie, L. and M. Nilsson, "Investigating the Energy > Consumption of a Wireless Network Interface in an Ad Hoc > Networking Environment", INFOCOM 2001. Twentieth Annual > Joint Conference of the IEEE Computer and Communications > Societies. Proceedings. IEEE Volume 3, pp. 1548-1557, > 2001. > > [link-inef-metric] > Dhananjay, L., Manjeshwar, A., Herrmann, F., Uysal- > Biyikoglu, E., and A. Keshavarzian, "Measurement and > Characterization of Link Quality Metrics in Energy > Constrained Wireless Sensor Networks", IEEE Global > Telecommunications Conference, Globecom 03 Volume 1, pp > 446-452, 2003. > > [minimum-energy-mobile] > Rodoplu, V. and T. Meng, "Minimum Energy Mobile Wireless > Networks", IEEE Journal on Selected Areas in > Communications Volume 17, Number 8, August 1999. > > [minimum-energy-revisited] > Li, L. and J. Halpern, "Minimum-Energy Mobile Wireless > Networks Revisited", Communications, 2001. ICC 2001. IEEE > International Conference on Volume 1, pp. 278-283, > June 2001. > > [new-routing-metric] > Boughanmi, N. and Y-Q. Song, "A New Routing Metric for > Satisfying both Energy and Delay Constraints in Wireless > Sensor Networks", Journal of Signal Processing > Systems Volume 51, Issue 2, pp. 137-143, May 2008. > > [online-power-aware] > Li, Q., Aslam, J., and D. Rus, "Online Power-aware > Routing > in Wireless Ad-hoc Networks", Proceedings of the 7th > annual international conference on Mobile computing and > networking pp. 97-107, 2001. > > [power-aware-routing] > Singh, S., Woo, M., and C. Raghavendra, "Power-Aware > Routing in Mobile Ad Hoc Networks", Proceedings of the > 4th > annual ACM/IEEE international conference on Mobile > computing and networking pp. 181-190, 1998. > > [power-control-wireless] > Goodman, D. and N. Mandayam, "Power Control for Wireless > Data", IEEE Personal Communications , 2000. > > [routing-and-channel] > Scott, K. and N. Bambos, "Routing and Channel Assignment > for Low Power Transmission in PCS", Universal Personal > Communications, 1996. Record., 1996 5th IEEE > International > Conference on Volume 2, pp. 498-502, 1996. > > Alex > > Goindi, Manhar a écrit : >> Hi Pascal, >> Thanks for your clarification! >> I shall await the use case drafts and the enhanced metrics draft to >> get more clarity on the manner to short-list preferred parents & >> siblings. For instance, there could be a metric for choosing >> parents and another metric to choose siblings. >> I agree that Case 1 & Case 2 are loops and are not desirable. Case >> 4 is superior to Case 3 by offering an alternate path for >> forwarding by way of siblings. Thanks for the illustration. >> Thanks & Best Regards, >> Manhar Goindi >> *Manhar Goindi* >> Technical Expert >> Phone: +91 120 3352149 >> *From:* Pascal Thubert (pthubert) [mailto:pthubert@cisco.com] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:20 PM >> *To:* Goindi, Manhar; JP Vasseur (jvasseur); ROLL WG >> *Subject:* RE: [Roll] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-dt-roll-rpl-00.txt Q1 >> 1. How does a node know that DIO it has received from a node should >> be taken as a Parent or a Sibling with reference to Example in >> section 3.3.1.4.1? I mean how would it decide its own depth. >> Hi Manhar: >> The component that makes that resolution is out of scope. That >> component, that I call plugin for the lack of a better term, >> depends on the metrics which in turn depend on the link type (like >> RSSI) and the use case (like battery). Because the plugin depends >> on the metrics, it makes more sense to specify reference examples >> using those metrics in the current metrics drafts. Other drafts >> might follow for more specific use cases, and you might even find >> RA extensions and plugins that are completely proprietary. >> The plugin component is very loosely constrained. It selects an >> ordered set of preferred parents and from then generic RPL takes >> over. RPL will use for this node a depth that is incremented from >> the depth of the deepest parent. The resulting depth enables an >> abstraction of feasible successors in the same DAG, some parents >> (least depth) some siblings (same depth). Loop avoidance is >> guaranteed by construction when packets are passed to parents. It >> is attempted on a per packet basis when forwarding via siblings. >> Note that the plugin might not be use the depth as primary selector >> for the choice of the preferred parent. For instance that a node >> sees 2 routers, one at depth 1 with a poor signal indicator and one >> at depth 2 with a very good signal. The plugin should prefer the >> second router. >> The resulting graph might depend a lot on how greedy the plugins >> are. If you consider that a node is richer when it has a higher >> number of feasible successors, what society are we trying to build? >> Let me give you an example. We have a triangle, A, B, C. A is a >> root and B and C dynamically appear. Once things settle, you could >> end up with a situation like: +--->A<---+ +--->A<--- >> + +--->A<---+ +--->A<---+ >> | | | | | | | | >> | | |+--->---+| | | | | >> B-------->C B| |C B C B<------->C >> +---<---+ >> Case 1 Case 2 Case 3 Case 4 >> Case 1: B is a scrooge. If it comes up after C it sees A and C and >> tries to optimize locally its number of parents. If C comes later, >> B detaches from A and reattaches to again get 2 parents. The >> resulting depths are A:0, C:1 and B:2 . Drawback: C is always >> deprived from an alternate forwarding solution. Greediness is >> discouraged unless the node has a very good reason like critical + >> low battery but draft 00 lacks any clear cut constraint about that. >> Case 2: C is also greedy. So when B attaches to C as before, C >> will detach from A to reattach to B and C, and we are in a loop >> till maximum depth. At which point the looser will attach to A only >> and we start over the count to infinity. This is definitively >> broken. A simple tie break is to ignore RAs from deeper, and this >> is MUSTed in section 5.4 at the end of item 5. So, case 2 is >> actually impossible with the current spec. >> Case 3. B & C are both genuinely altruistic, so anxious of the >> benefit of others that they wouldn't dare get deeper than they >> could. So they end up at depth 1 with only one feasible successor, >> A. The result is in fact even worse than case 1 because neither B >> nor C can benefit from the other. >> Case 4. Same as case 3 with a new rule of allowing sibling >> forwarding. In that case, B and C are still both depth 1, but they >> can use one another as alternate (backup) feasible successors. >> Because the sibling hops do not belong to the DAG, they are not >> loopless by construction and additional measures must be taken like >> always prefer a real parent, do not give a packet back to a >> sibling, decrement hop limit faster, that sort of thing. >> The spec is very open but case 4 might be often desirable but for >> specific nodes that really need to be greedier than average. One >> way of doing this is to select only ONE preferred parent (then >> again not necessarily the shallowest one) and orient its vector in >> the gradient towards that guy. If we do that, the depth will really >> represent the hops over the preferred and most probable path as >> opposed to the worst path within selected parents. >> My take is that we should SHOULD that behavior. What do you think? >> Pascal >> From: roll-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org] On >> Behalf Of Goindi, Manhar >> Sent: mardi 30 juin 2009 11:15 >> To: JP Vasseur (jvasseur); ROLL WG >> Subject: Re: [Roll] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-dt-roll-rpl-00.txt >> Hi JP, >> Thanks a lot for sharing this draft as it proved very informative & >> I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. >> I have the following queries: >> 2. How does a node know that DIO it has received from a node should >> be taken as a Parent or a Sibling with reference to Example in >> section 3.3.1.4.1? I mean how would it decide its own depth. >> 3. In Section 3.3.4.4 – why doesn’t node 51 reattach itself as a >> child to node 53 instead of making node 52 as its parent? Is it >> that node 51 cannot hear node 53 directly so it has to go through >> node 52? >> 4. Can siblings hear each other as it is not evident from Figure >> 2: Example DAG? >> 5. In section 3.3.4.1: Moving Down a DAG – it is mentioned that >> there is little change for a loop and node 56 may reattach to DAG >> with parents 43 & 55. How is the formation or non-formation of >> this loop detected? What is the mechanism for that? >> Would someone like to see if there is an answer to them? >> Thanks & Best Regards, >> Manhar Goindi >> Manhar Goindi >> Technical Expert >> Landis+Gyr Phone: +91 120 3352149 >> manhar.goindi@landisgyr.com >> www.landisgyr.com >> manage energy better >> From: roll-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org] On >> Behalf Of JP Vasseur >> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 10:19 AM >> To: ROLL WG >> Subject: [Roll] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-dt-roll-rpl-00.txt >> Here you are. >> Thanks. >> JP. >> Begin forwarded message: >> From: Internet-Drafts@ietf.org >> Date: June 29, 2009 1:15:01 AM CEDT >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org >> Subject: I-D Action:draft-dt-roll-rpl-00.txt Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >> directories. >> Title : RPL: Routing Protocol for Low Power >> and Lossy Networks >> Author(s) : T. Winter, R. 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- [Roll] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-dt-roll-rpl-00.txt JP Vasseur
- Re: [Roll] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-dt-roll-rpl-00.t… engineer.umair
- Re: [Roll] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-dt-roll-rpl-00.t… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Roll] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-dt-roll-rpl-00.t… JP Vasseur
- Re: [Roll] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-dt-roll-rpl-00.t… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Roll] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-dt-roll-rpl-00.t… JP Vasseur
- Re: [Roll] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-dt-roll-rpl-00.t… Goindi, Manhar
- Re: [Roll] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-dt-roll-rpl-00.t… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-dt-roll-rpl-00.t… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-dt-roll-rpl-00.t… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Roll] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-dt-roll-rpl-00.t… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Roll] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-dt-roll-rpl-00.t… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Roll] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-dt-roll-rpl-00.t… Goindi, Manhar
- Re: [Roll] energy metric for IPv6 links (was: Fwd… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [Roll] energy metric for IPv6 links (was: Fwd… JP Vasseur
- Re: [Roll] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-dt-roll-rpl-00.t… Mathilde Durvy (mdurvy)
- Re: [Roll] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-dt-roll-rpl-00.t… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)