Re: Progressing: draft-farrel-rtg-manageability-requirements-01.txt

"Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Sat, 19 November 2005 09:57 UTC

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From: Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
To: routing-discussion@ietf.org, Bill Fenner <fenner@research.att.com>, zinin@psg.com
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Cc: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.se>, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org>
Subject: Re: Progressing: draft-farrel-rtg-manageability-requirements-01.txt
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Attention ADs.

I wouldn't claim overwhelming support, but I would also note that the only
issues raised so far were by you at the meeting in Vancouver.

So where do we go from here?

We originally positioned this as Informational, but making firm
requirements.

My suggestion, in response to your concerns in Vancouver was to keep this
as Informational, but drop the requirements making the Manageability
Concerns section advisory.

The small email exchange on the list, however, is requesting BCP status
with firm requirements.

Do you want to give some guidance and enter into a discussion?

Cheers,
Adrian


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Petch" <nwnetworks@dial.pipex.com>
To: "Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>; <routing-discussion@ietf.org>
Cc: "Loa Andersson" <loa@pi.se>; "Avri Doria" <avri@acm.org>
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 4:50 PM
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draft-farrel-rtg-manageability-requirements-01.txt


> I agree and am in favour.
>
> Tom Petch
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Zafar Ali (zali)" <zali@cisco.com>
> To: "Ash, Gerald R (Jerry), ALABS" <gash@att.com>; "Adrian Farrel"
> <adrian@olddog.co.uk>; <routing-discussion@ietf.org>
> Cc: "Loa Andersson" <loa@pi.se>; "Avri Doria" <avri@acm.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:41 PM
> Subject: RE: Progressing:
draft-farrel-rtg-manageability-requirements-01.txt
>
>
> I agree w/ Jerry's comment and in-favor of this draft.
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards... Zafar
>
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > [mailto:routing-discussion-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> > Ash, Gerald R (Jerry), ALABS
> > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 2:21 PM
> > To: Adrian Farrel; routing-discussion@ietf.org
> > Cc: Loa Andersson; Ash, Gerald R (Jerry), ALABS; Avri Doria
> > Subject: RE: Progressing:
> > draft-farrel-rtg-manageability-requirements-01.txt
> >
> > > Should we advance this work as a suggestion or BCP, or
> > should we throw
> > > it out?
> >
> > IMO we should advance to BCP, and require a manageability section.
> > Requiring the section will force the authors to give
> > thoughtful consideration to what the manageability
> > requirements are for the feature.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jerry
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