Re: [rsab] [Editorial Errata Reported] RFC9280 (7795)

Sorry my statement below was actually not right or at least not clear. draft-rswg-rfc7990-update does need to update RFC9280 but only section 7 and that does not need any additional IESG or IAB approval.

> On 5. Feb 2024, at 18:21, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) <ietf@kuehlewind.net> wrote:
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> To the errata itself, I don’t think this addition is needed because as section 7 says " Proposals that affect these properties are possible within the processes defined in this document” this changing procedure for section 7 is actually a procedure defined in this document and therefore is valid.  However, I guess the change proposed below in the errata would probably make it more clear.
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> But in summary, I don’t think there is an errata and draft-rswg-rfc7990-update does not need to update RFC9280 (without or without the proposed changed in the errata below).
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>> On 3. Feb 2024, at 09:43, Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> wrote:
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>> FYI and for discussion.
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>> Subject:	[Editorial Errata Reported] RFC9280 (7795)
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>> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC9280,
>> "RFC Editor Model (Version 3)".
>> 
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>> You may review the report below and at:
>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid7795
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>> Type: Editorial
>> Reported by: Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> <mailto:lear@lear.ch>
>> 
>> Section: 8
>> 
>> Original Text
>> -------------
>> Updates, amendments, and refinements to this document can be produced
>> using the process documented herein but shall be published and
>> operative only after (a) obtaining the agreement of the IAB and the
>> IESG and (b) ensuring that the IETF LLC has no objections regarding
>> its ability to implement any proposed changes.
>> 
>> Corrected Text
>> --------------
>> Updates, amendments, and refinements to this document can be
>> produced using the process documented herein but, unless otherwise
>> specified in this document, shall be published and operative only
>> after (a) obtaining the agreement of the IAB and the IESG and (b)
>> ensuring that the IETF LLC has no objections regarding its ability
>> to implement any proposed changes.
>> 
>> 
>> Notes
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>> Section 7 explicitly states:
>> 
>> "Proposals that affect these properties are possible within the processes defined in this document."
>> 
>> And it goes on from there to discuss RSWG/RSAB review.
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>> Therefore, it should not be necessary for the IAB, IESG, and LLC to approve changes in Section 7. That is just a for-instance. There may be other examples.
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>> RFC9280 (draft-iab-rfcefdp-rfced-model-13)
>> --------------------------------------
>> Title : RFC Editor Model (Version 3)
>> Publication Date : June 2022
>> Author(s) : P. Saint-Andre, Ed.
>> Category : INFORMATIONAL
>> Source : IAB
>> Area : N/A
>> Stream : IAB
>> Verifying Party : IAB
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