[rsab] RSAB mailing list open to send [was: Re: RSAB document approval process]

"Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)" <ietf@kuehlewind.net> Wed, 17 April 2024 14:11 UTC

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Subject: [rsab] RSAB mailing list open to send [was: Re: RSAB document approval process]
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Hi all,

I think what I am hearing is that the RSAB list should be open for everybody to send us mail. I personally think that is the right thing to do as well because we must have a way for the community to reach us.

Jay raised a concern that together with the open archives this would make it basically an open (discussion) list. I do believe that people understand the difference, however, I think if that problem actually occurs in further we can still reconsider this decisions at any time and find a different solution (e.g. create a new list).

Sandy, could you please change the configuration of the list accordingly? Thanks!

Mirja



> On 15. Mar 2024, at 03:44, Jay Daley <exec-director@ietf.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mirja
> 
> Thanks for the very comprehensive plan, it looks good to me.
> 
> On the issue of lists:
> 
>> On 15 Mar 2024, at 00:41, Mirja Kühlewind (IETF) <ietf@kuehlewind.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I was assuming people could send as that’s what we also do for other leadership groups. People should not be able to subscribe; it’s sufficient that we have a public archive.
> 
> Other leadership lists are private (closed readership) whereas the RSAB list is public (open readership) and so if we allow open posting that turns it into an open public mailing list, even if we don’t allow subscriptions (people can just use IMAP to get all the list messages).  That would not be helpful at all.
> 
>> Alternatively we could also establish a separate list (and the  even forward to RSAB) or use the ietf last call list…?
> 
> The other alternatives are to use the RSWG list or the RFC Interest list.  
> 
> My preference is last-call because a) that’s intended for this type of discussion; b) that's where the documents related to the change of the RFC Editor model were discussed (as well as other places); and c) it will be discussed there anyway,
> 
> 	https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/last-call/rPhyJkxm7Oo4cJ_3X7AAMHZtgf0/
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> Jay
> 
>> 
>> Just checking what people think!
>> 
>> Mirja
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 13.03.2024 um 22:19 schrieb Sandy Ginoza <sginoza@amsl.com>:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mirja, All,
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 13, 2024, at 4:58 AM, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) <ietf@kuehlewind.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The reply-to will be set to rsab@rfc-editori.org
>>> 
>>> Currently, the list is set up so that only members and Cindy can send mail.  Iirc, this was to avoid introducing a new discussion list.  It sounds like the RSAB list should be open to receive mail from non-members - please confirm this is correct.  Do you also want to allow people to subscribe to the list?  
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sandy
>>> 
>>> 
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