Re: [Rswg] Making progress on evolving the XML format

Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Tue, 14 February 2023 20:13 UTC

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Catching up on this -

It seems not great to have them in the same document; how will people looking at the document in 10 years* know which part to pay attention to when they actually need to use the format?

Cheers,


* Yes, I'm being optimistic

> On 13 Feb 2023, at 12:27 pm, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi RSWG members,
> 
> Pete and I have been chatting about the best way forward for evolving
> the XMLv3 grammar. We think that there's broad agreement that:
> 
> 1. We need some document that describes the "as-is" xmlv3 format.
>    - That document should be published in some form that implies
>      it doesn't have consensus.
>    - The WG should do the work of making sure that happens
> 2. We need to work on a new format (v3.1?) that will have consensus.
> 
> I think people are assuming that the new format will need an RFC but
> there is not agreement on whether the "as-is" should be.
> 
> 
> Pete and I would like to propose the following way forward, based
> on a suggestion from Martin Thomson in January.
> 
> - Adopt draft-irse-draft-irse-xml2rfcv3-implemented as a WG document
>   to use as the basis for v3.1.
> 
> - Everything that doesn't match RFC 7990 will be marked as
>   "provisional". We go through all of these and either adopt them as
>   having consensus or decline to make the change, in which case we
>   move them to an Appendix.
> 
> - If necessary, we can also update the I-D to make consensus changes
>   to the as-is version on an "emergency" basis, though hopefully
>   this will not be needed often.
> 
> At the end of this process, we will have a document which describes
> the consensus format and also an appendix which describes how "as
> implemented" differs from the consensus format. These can be published
> together as an RFC, which will provide archival forms of both but
> without requiring that we publish an RFC of the current document while
> the consensus version is still in flux. In the meantime, the ID
> can serve as the definition of the current format.
> 
> What do people think of this proposal?
> -Ekr
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