Re: [rtcweb] Final plea about SRTP

Randell Jesup <randell-ietf@jesup.org> Fri, 04 May 2012 17:05 UTC

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On 5/4/2012 12:41 PM, Roman Shpount wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Magnus Westerlund
> <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com <mailto:magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>>
> wrote:

>     I think the bid-down problem is one of the largest for most people.
>
> I do not think we need to support auto-negotiation of RTP vs SRTP. Also,
> RTP should not be allowed from HTTPS sessions, so I do not think bid
> down is a problem at all.

You forget that bid-down includes bid-downs by the JS or server (which 
are not trusted in our model), not just by on-path attackers.

>     I also see a great benefit with always using SRTP, in that we will
>     get rid of RTP profile
>     negotiation. There will be no need to support any other RTP profile
>     than SAVPF.
>
> I do see a benefit of using one RTP profile only, but this will require
> WebRTC to use yet another feature that had almost no real life use. This
> will also ensure that RTCP will need to be re-encoded (as probably RTP)
> when processing calls to anything outside of WebRTC world.

I used to work on hardware endpoints that have been using SAVPF since 
2004, with hundreds of thousands of units in the field.


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