Re: [rtcweb] draft-jesup-rtcweb-data-00 posted
Randell Jesup <randell-ietf@jesup.org> Tue, 25 October 2011 14:47 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] draft-jesup-rtcweb-data-00 posted
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On 10/25/2011 4:02 AM, Hadriel Kaplan wrote: > > Hi Randell, > What do you think about the following additional requirements: > > Req. 7: Data streams MUST provide fragmentation at a layer above UDP, such > that IP-layer fragmentation does not occur no matter how large a message/buffer > the Javascript application passes down to the Browser to be sent out. > > Req. 8: The data stream transport protocol MUST NOT encode IP addresses > inside its protocol fields; doing so reveals potentially private information, > and leads to failure if the address is depended upon. > > Req. 9: The data stream protocol SHOULD support unbounded-length "messages" > (i.e., a virtual socket stream) at the application layer, for such things as > image-file-transfer; or else it MUST support at least a maximum > application-layer message size of 4GB. > > Req. 10: The data stream packet format/encoding MUST be such that it is > impossible for a malicious Javascript to generate an application message > crafted such that it could be interpreted as a native protocol over UDP - > such as UPnP, RTP, SNMP, STUN, etc. Thanks, those look useful. I'm not sure if Req 8 should be reworded to be more explicit (local IP address?) For Req 7, I think that when applied to unreliable data channels, entire fragmented messages must be delivered or none of the fragments delivered to the application. > I believe SCTP can do 7+8+9 the above if its options are chosen right, and of course TCP can. Yes, I believe so - for Req 9, SOCK_STREAM can be used to provide a TCP-like interface to SCTP. Do any of the above only apply to reliable data channels, in particular Req 9? > And I'm guessing DTLS will satisfy 10 above, as would websockets-style masking. Yes. -- Randell Jesup randell-ietf@jesup.org
- [rtcweb] draft-jesup-rtcweb-data-00 posted Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-jesup-rtcweb-data-00 posted Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-jesup-rtcweb-data-00 posted Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-jesup-rtcweb-data-00 posted Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-jesup-rtcweb-data-00 posted Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-jesup-rtcweb-data-00 posted Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-jesup-rtcweb-data-00 posted Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-jesup-rtcweb-data-00 posted Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-jesup-rtcweb-data-00 posted Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-jesup-rtcweb-data-00 posted Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-jesup-rtcweb-data-00 posted Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-jesup-rtcweb-data-00 posted Cullen Jennings