Re: [rtcweb] Comment on Straw Poll replies
Tim Panton <tim@phonefromhere.com> Tue, 14 January 2014 17:00 UTC
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From: Tim Panton <tim@phonefromhere.com>
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On 14 Jan 2014, at 16:55, Stephan Wenger <stewe@stewe.org> wrote: > > > On 1/14/14, 4:35, "Tim Panton" <tim@phonefromhere.com> wrote: > >> >> On 14 Jan 2014, at 10:22, DRAGE, Keith (Keith) >> <keith.drage@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote: >> >>> In those terms, I do not believe that is what they were showing, at >>> least according to the reports I have seen. >>> >>> Further, apart from any processing power, the critical issue is the >>> delay involved in any conversion, and I have no figures for that from >>> this demonstration, and I suspect you do not either. Given that you must >>> receive frames to do the conversion, my belief is that we will still be >>> talking both decode and encode delay at the conversion point of the >>> order of 60 - 70 ms, whatever mechanism is used. That is a significant >>> take from the limits specified in ITU Recommendation G.114. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Keith >>> >> >> My experience of the existing mass h264 deployments in the mobile space >> is that they like to split the the audio and >> video media paths. (You'd need to do this in any gateway to these legacy >> systems). >> This means that they can get out of sync. This would be made worse by >> transcoding the video leg. > > RTP is designed to take care of this. Not if audio and video are on separate calls - which seems to be what RCS/joyn expects. T.
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