Re: Remote LFA
Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> Wed, 12 October 2011 14:54 UTC
Return-Path: <akatlas@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D14821F8BC4 for <rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:54:11 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -3.598
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id D7BKqIlxeK1h for <rtgwg@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:54:10 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-pz0-f50.google.com (mail-pz0-f50.google.com [209.85.210.50]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31AF721F8BC5 for <rtgwg@ietf.org>; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:54:10 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by pzk37 with SMTP id 37so202701pzk.9 for <rtgwg@ietf.org>; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:54:09 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=CPKmNFQEbsvcgYLKYuALOO0JYjRR1N5fdDnGmeVjqlM=; b=P4q9l0VSD6jmPDtM4jvjo42t9xt0Uwao6RcCn0z5UA4FPaZnX4c3VaqKTH0vB7iDqK jDxf5KmVGdYJb+MdrKYicxVZ2cRaDthZsNflkrImJHRH4NfWMpJwEAIh8/BfOZKvXI42 9mgcUCC9A2Y/aSKYSdRAtqd/YBDmmnaADJRqo=
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.68.38.169 with SMTP id h9mr1626307pbk.113.1318431248756; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:54:08 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.143.66.2 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:54:08 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <6665BC1FEA04AB47B1F75FA641C43BC08F27A3DB@FHDP1LUMXC7V41.us.one.verizon.com>
References: <4E946A07.80403@cisco.com> <14C7F4F06DB5814AB0DE29716C4F6D671ADD9B44@FRMRSSXCHMBSB1.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com> <CAOndX-sJ7OEbSfRtYygY5xaz6ZpHpMfipidt_dLOSP-ELo3cnw@mail.gmail.com> <14C7F4F06DB5814AB0DE29716C4F6D671ADD9BC8@FRMRSSXCHMBSB1.dc-m.alcatel-lucent.com> <6665BC1FEA04AB47B1F75FA641C43BC08F27A3DB@FHDP1LUMXC7V41.us.one.verizon.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:54:08 -0400
Message-ID: <CAG4d1rcRFnxJJDgGeHPXNYk-hV8KCZaJ4cyCKGrjsFQHB4khDw@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Remote LFA
From: Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com>
To: "So, Ning" <ning.so@verizon.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="bcaec520f1bd3e2ef704af1b32f0"
Cc: "imc.shand@googlemail.com" <imc.shand@googlemail.com>, "Stewart Bryant (stbryant)" <stbryant@cisco.com>, "rtgwg@ietf.org" <rtgwg@ietf.org>, Sriganesh Kini <sriganesh.kini@ericsson.com>
X-BeenThere: rtgwg@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: Routing Area Working Group <rtgwg.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/rtgwg>, <mailto:rtgwg-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtgwg>
List-Post: <mailto:rtgwg@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:rtgwg-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg>, <mailto:rtgwg-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:54:11 -0000
When RTGWG had this same discussion a number of years ago, the consensus was that we wanted a solution that provided 100% coverage. At the time, of course, we were discussing both PQ (of which Remote LFA is a subset) and U-turn alternates. Now, we have two options that provide 100% coverage - NotVia, which has proved too heavy-weight, and MRT, which is being actively investigated. I don't believe that the requirements and reasons for 100% coverage that were made a few years ago have changed. Alia On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:38 AM, So, Ning <ning.so@verizon.com> wrote: > I agree. Operators have been holding back the deployment of LFA because of > those reasons Wim stated. Remote LFA solves those problems. It should > help to speed up the LFA deployment in the field. **** > > ** ** > > **** > > Best regards,**** > > **** > > Ning So**** > > Verizon Corporate Technology**** > > (office) 972-729-7905**** > > (Cell) 972-955-0914**** > > **** > > ** ** > > *From:* Henderickx, Wim (Wim) [mailto:wim.henderickx@alcatel-lucent.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:31 AM > *To:* Sriganesh Kini > > *Cc:* Clarence Filsfils; rtgwg@ietf.org; Stewart Bryant (stbryant); So, > Ning; imc.shand@googlemail.com > *Subject:* RE: Remote LFA**** > > ** ** > > I still believe remote LFA has more merits for the service providers who > deploy LFA and want to increase the coverage. It is not about SRLG or not. > It is about coverage and remote LFA has the benefits that is re-uses > operational procedures which are in place in service providers networks > today. So extending them is better than introducing a complete new scheme. > **** > > ** ** > > *From:* sriganeshkini@gmail.com [mailto:sriganeshkini@gmail.com] *On > Behalf Of *Sriganesh Kini > *Sent:* dinsdag 11 oktober 2011 22:21 > *To:* Henderickx, Wim (Wim) > *Cc:* Clarence Filsfils; rtgwg@ietf.org; Stewart Bryant (stbryant); So, > Ning; imc.shand@googlemail.com > *Subject:* Re: Remote LFA**** > > ** ** > > About related work -**** > > ** ** > > At the last IETF we presented draft-kini-mpls-frr-ldp that > addresses additional cases where besides using a primary LSP to a remote LSR > such that traffic does not loop back, it handles SRLG as well.**** > > ** ** > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Henderickx, Wim (Wim) < > wim.henderickx@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote:**** > > Clarence yes I saw this in the last IETF and i believe this has a lot of > value**** > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Clarence Filsfils > Sent: dinsdag 11 oktober 2011 18:09 > To: rtgwg@ietf.org; Stewart Bryant (stbryant); So, Ning; > imc.shand@googlemail.com > Subject: Remote LFA > > Please find the following submission complementing the LFA technology: > > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-shand-remote-lfa-00.txt > > It drastically extends the coverage of LFA while keeping its simplicity. > > Cheers, > Clarence > _______________________________________________ > rtgwg mailing list > rtgwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg > _______________________________________________ > rtgwg mailing list > rtgwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg**** > > > > **** > > ** ** > > -- > - Sri**** > > _______________________________________________ > rtgwg mailing list > rtgwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg > >
- RE: Remote LFA So, Ning
- Re: Remote LFA Alia Atlas
- RE: Remote LFA András Császár
- Remote LFA Clarence Filsfils
- RE: Remote LFA Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
- RE: Remote LFA Gábor Sándor Enyedi
- Re: Remote LFA Clarence Filsfils
- RE: Remote LFA Sucec, John M
- Re: Remote LFA Sriganesh Kini
- RE: Remote LFA Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
- Re: Remote LFA Sriganesh Kini
- RE: Remote LFA András Császár