Re: [saag] Liking Linkability

Nathan <nathan@webr3.org> Mon, 22 October 2012 10:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [saag] Liking Linkability
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Ben Laurie wrote:
> Where we came in was me pointing out that if you disconnect your
> identities by using multiple WebIDs, then you have a UI problem, and
> since then the aim seems to have been to persuade us that multiple
> WebIDs are not needed.

Yup, it appears to boil down to a UI problem, and more specifically, a 
browser-ui problem.

Multiple WeIDs are often needed, and the WebID protocol doesn't preclude 
that in any way shape or form.

On a positive note, it's great to talk through these things and make 
sure that peoples concerns are voiced and noted :)

Best,

Nathan