Re: [SAFE] nat-control-stun-usage-04
Philip Matthews <philip_matthews@magma.ca> Thu, 11 October 2007 14:38 UTC
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From: Philip Matthews <philip_matthews@magma.ca>
Subject: Re: [SAFE] nat-control-stun-usage-04
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:38:19 -0400
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On 11-Oct-07, at 06:57 , Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: > Le Wednesday 10 October 2007 22:32:37 ext Dan Wing, vous avez écrit : >> We just submitted a new version of STUN Control, >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wing-behave-nat-control- >> stun-usag >> e-0 4.txt >> >> The changes were mostly organizational and editorial, and included: >> >> o Clarified that all existing bindings, for that source IP >> address >> and UDP port, are controlled with STUN Control. >> >> o Introduction now concentrates on the primary purpose of STUN >> Control, namely reducing keepalive traffic for SIP-Outbound. > > As far as I understand, STUN in general, and STUN in particular, > can be used > for any UDP-based always-on protocol. ESP-in-UDP, TEREDO, perhaps > some long > usages of RTP (such as MIDI-over-RTP(?) or RTSP-based streaming), > proprietary > UDP overlays (not giving any names)... > > And then, there is the relation to ICE in finding "intermediary" > NAT mappings > in nested NATs scenarios. This remains a big interest of mine, though increasing the lifetime of UDP mapping and filtering entries is also a big win. I am not sure why the focus is SIP-Outbound as opposed to other UDP uses. > > At the same time, I thought SIP Outbound was going to recommend > TCP, so that > it could end up being a less likely "customer" of STUN control?? > > -- > Rémi Denis-Courmont > > > _______________________________________________ > SAFE mailing list > SAFE@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/safe > _______________________________________________ SAFE mailing list SAFE@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/safe
- [SAFE] nat-control-stun-usage-04 Dan Wing
- Re: [SAFE] nat-control-stun-usage-04 Rémi Denis-Courmont
- RE: [SAFE] nat-control-stun-usage-04 Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [SAFE] nat-control-stun-usage-04 Philip Matthews
- RE: [SAFE] nat-control-stun-usage-04 Dan Wing
- [SAFE] IKE/IPsec with STUN Control Dan Wing