Re: Poll: pure SCRAM versa SCRAM-as-GS2
Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> Thu, 05 February 2009 21:40 UTC
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From: Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org>
To: Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com>
Cc: SASL WG <ietf-sasl@imc.org>
Subject: Re: Poll: pure SCRAM versa SCRAM-as-GS2
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Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:36:56 +0100
In-Reply-To: <498B569C.7070400@isode.com> (Alexey Melnikov's message of "Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:14:04 +0000")
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Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> writes: > Folks, > I would like to solicit feedback from people regarding the choice > between 2 SCRAM versions: > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-newman-auth-scram-08.txt > and > http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-newman-auth-scram-gs2-00.txt > > You can use the following URL to see changes between them: > http://tools.ietf.org//rfcdiff?url1=http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-newman-auth-scram-08.txt&url2=http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-newman-auth-scram-gs2-00.txt > > Please send your opinion on which version you prefer (and a short > explanation of why) to the mailing list, or say if you need more > information. > > I would like to get all answers before February 19th, please. I would prefer a document that describe SCRAM as a GSS-API mechanism. Such a mechanism would be usable within SASL via GS2. It would also be useful outside of the SASL framework. For SASL implementers, in a SCRAM-as-GSSAPI-mechanism document, there could be a section that describes how to implement it as a SASL mechanism without having to understand GSS-API or GS2. /Simon
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