Re: [Schc] [lp-wan] Adoption call for draft-barthel-schc-oam-schc

[Laurent Toutain <[e-mail]>]

Hi Marion,

Thanks for you support. I totally agree with you concerning reaching a
consensus on the "ICMPv6" draft, my concern is more on the timing. I prefer
to have more discussions on the principle of "actions" and publish a single
document, than publish an RFC just on ICMPv6 field compression, then
another of actions, for several reasons.

- The draft defines an augmentation to RFC 9363 YANG DM, that needs to be
mapped to SIDs. If we split in two, regarding the current allocation
process, there is a risk of wasting relatively small SIDs,
- the proxy-ping6 action is also a good vector to promote actions inside
SCHC rules. If we split, we may not benefit of the momentum and make it
harder to push after. This mechanism may be applied to some other messages,
such as keep-a-live, that may also be proxied, or in Ana's proposal to
manage flows draft-minaburo-schc-flow-compression
- The principle of Proposed Standard RFC is to see if an idea is popular or
not and get adopted or not in implementations. Some monitoring tools uses
ping to test the device, by using proxy ping, it is possible to see the
status of the device, without changing the monitoring tool nor sending
packets on the constrained network.  For me, it is a direct practical
application of the proxy ping.

Laurent

On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 3:19 PM <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
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> I support the adoption of this draft. There's no doubt that offering SCHC
> compression of ICMPv6 is necessary.
>
> However, I'd would like to recommend that the scope of the draft be
> strictly limited to the compression of ICMPv6 messages (the title of the
> draft must be modified).
>
> Content pertaining to architecture should be addressed separately in the
> relevant draft to maintain clarity and focus.
>
> In addition, in line with what Dominique said at the last interim meeting,
> I also have concerns about the introduction of the concept of actions. I'm
> afraid this may lead to a loss of generality and open the door to many
> undesirable uses.
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>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Marion
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> *De :* Schc <[e-mail]> *De la part de* Sandra Cespedes
> *Envoyé :* mercredi 24 janvier 2024 17:23
> *À :* schc <[e-mail]>
> *Cc :* lp-wan <[e-mail]>
> *Objet :* Re: [Schc] [lp-wan] Adoption call for
> draft-barthel-schc-oam-schc
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> Dear all,
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> I support the adoption of this draft. The functionality it provides is
> very useful.
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> Best,
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> Sandra.
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> *From:* Schc <[e-mail]> *On Behalf Of *Carles Gomez
> Montenegro
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 23, 2024 9:39 AM
> *To:* Alexander PELOV <[e-mail]>
> *Cc:* DIEGO DUJOVNE <[e-mail]>; schc <[e-mail]>;
> lp-wan <[e-mail]>
> *Subject:* Re: [Schc] [lp-wan] Adoption call for
> draft-barthel-schc-oam-schc
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> Dear all,
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> I support adopting the draft as well.
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> The draft provides very useful functionality, including that ICMPv6 header
> compression may be needed in environments beyond LPWAN (e.g., for Neighbor
> Discovery messages in draft-ietf-6lo-schc-15dot4-04 scenarios).
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> Cheers,
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> Carles
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> On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 at 13:48, Alexander PELOV <
> [e-mail]> wrote:
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> (chair hat off)
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> Dear all,
> +1 on my side as well.
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> Having ICMPv6 over SCHC, as well as other (potentially larger) parts of
> OAM are things we should be able to run over SCHC.
>
> Cheers,
> Alexander
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> ----- Mail original -----
> De: "DIEGO DUJOVNE" <[e-mail]>
> À: "Alexander PELOV" <[e-mail]>
> Cc: "schc" <[e-mail]>, "lp-wan" <[e-mail]>
> Envoyé: Mardi 23 Janvier 2024 12:55:17
> Objet: Re: [Schc] Adoption call for draft-barthel-schc-oam-schc
>
> I agree to adopt this draft.
> Regards,
>
>         Diego Dujovne
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> El mar, 23 de ene de 2024, 07:36, Alexander PELOV <
> [e-mail]> escribió:
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> > Dear all,
> >
> > This is a call to adopt as a SCHC WG document. Please express support or
> > opposition with a rationale either way.
> >
> > As a reminder, we've been working and discussing the document for quite
> > some time now, and the call comes after IETF 118, where we discussed it
> and
> > decided that it is time to start the call.
> >
> > The latest version can be found here :
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-barthel-schc-oam-schc/
> >
> >
> > This call will end on Feb 6.
> >
> > Cheers
> > The chairs
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